Author Topic: NFL Predictions (Read 23617 times)

Neil Da BOMB J · « **Reply #100 on:** October 05, 2011, 05:53:06 PM »

Quote from: lp670sv on October 05, 2011, 04:40:42 PM

i missed a few pages of this thread. I thought we were still on page 3

Yeah all the sudden I looked at this tread and I was shocked to see it at p6.

cookie monster · « **Reply #101 on:** October 09, 2011, 06:01:12 PM »

THE VIKINGS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Captain Kirk · « **Reply #102 on:** October 10, 2011, 01:43:59 AM »

Stamp,

We should have a party where only fans that root for NFC teams leading their divisions can come.

I wasn't thrilled that my Redskins tossed Carlos Rogers in the offseason, but I was glad to see him get that pick 6 today.

Kirk

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #103 on:** October 10, 2011, 01:49:34 AM »

So could both Lions and Packers fans come if the Lions win tomorrow?

Who else is kind of hoping that both of them remain undefeated until Week 12's Thanksgiving game?

STAMP · « **Reply #104 on:** October 10, 2011, 11:51:38 AM »

Quote from: Captain Kirk on October 10, 2011, 01:43:59 AM

Stamp,

We should have a party where only fans that root for NFC teams leading their divisions can come.

I wasn't thrilled that my Redskins tossed Carlos Rogers in the offseason, but I was glad to see him get that pick 6 today.

Kirk

Believe me...I am shocked right now!

48-3??!! The announcers made my day reminding the audience the last time the 49ers won by that much...the '90 SB - 55 to 10 over Elway-led Denver. Ah, good times!

Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on October 10, 2011, 01:49:34 AM

So could both Lions and Packers fans come if the Lions win tomorrow?

Who else is kind of hoping that both of them remain undefeated until Week 12's Thanksgiving game?

I was hoping up until I noticed that the Lions and 49ers play next week.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #105 on:** October 10, 2011, 12:38:54 PM »

Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on October 10, 2011, 01:49:34 AM

So could both Lions and Packers fans come if the Lions win tomorrow?

Who else is kind of hoping that both of them remain undefeated until Week 12's Thanksgiving game?

As epic as it would be, now that the Vikings have begun the rally to save their season, we need both the Lions and Packers to lose as many games as possible.

Carl deuty · « **Reply #106 on:** October 10, 2011, 03:16:26 PM »

Quote from: Neil Da BOMB J on October 05, 2011, 01:24:26 PM

Lions vs. Packers in the NFC Championship!

Moter city kitties crush 40-10

You might be delirious if you believe this. As good as the Lions are, they are still only the second best team in their division. You say, " but they are tied with GB for the lead." To that I say, you are correct, but when it gets down to the nitty gritty, the Packers know how to win the big games and the Lions do not.GB has a top 3 QB, the lions only have a top 12-15 QB. Just throwing the ball up to the best receiver in the game and letting him out jump everyone is not that great. Lets see Stafford make some of the throws Rodgers makes into those tight windows, and then we can start talking Superbowl. Also, where is the Lions running game? You can not expect the Lions to make it through the season and the playoffs with a one trick pony, Stafford to Johnson. This is coming from a lifelong Packers fan, not a bandwagoneer.

lp670sv · « **Reply #107 on:** October 10, 2011, 03:25:55 PM »

Javid Best this season > Ryan Grant this season

Grant has done nothing this year, if either teams offense is a one trick pony it's the Packers. Rodgers has more weapons then most teams have receivers. Stafford only throws to Johnson because he has no one else to throw too. Pettigrew's okay but he's not that great. I'm not sure which team is actually better and I'll wait till the actual game to find out, but your argument isn't valid. Their Defenses are about equal. If the Lions win tonight that should do enough to prove that they can win big games.

Captain Kirk · « **Reply #108 on:** October 10, 2011, 03:44:06 PM »

Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on October 10, 2011, 01:49:34 AM

So could both Lions and Packers fans come if the Lions win tomorrow?

Who else is kind of hoping that both of them remain undefeated until Week 12's Thanksgiving game?

Yes, I have nothing against either of those teams.

I think that would be a ridiculously awesome game if they were both 11-0 at that point, but I doubt it will happen. I still think it will be a great game to watch.

Kirk

Carl deuty · « **Reply #109 on:** October 10, 2011, 05:37:00 PM »

Quote from: lp670sv on October 10, 2011, 03:25:55 PM

Javid Best this season > Ryan Grant this season

Grant has done nothing this year, if either teams offense is a one trick pony it's the Packers. Rodgers has more weapons then most teams have receivers. Stafford only throws to Johnson because he has no one else to throw too. Pettigrew's okay but he's not that great. I'm not sure which team is actually better and I'll wait till the actual game to find out, but your argument isn't valid. Their Defenses are about equal. If the Lions win tonight that should do enough to prove that they can win big games.

Grant isn't even GB's best running back, James Starks can run circles around Grant. The only thing that Best has done this season is catch passes out of the backfield. Best has not run better than the Starks/Grant split so far this season. Also, Best is tiny and is pretty much like a Reggie Bush. The Lions hve no one to pound the rock up the middle. GB can use Starks for speed and Grant is someone who rarely fumbles and can get you those tough yards. Also, beating the third best team in the NFC North on monday night is hardly winning a big game. The lions are not even used to winning, let alone a big game. Don't get me wrong, I love that the Lions are doing good this year, but when they play the Pack its gonna be the same ol story. Packers win!

lightningninja · « **Reply #110 on:** October 10, 2011, 06:40:50 PM »

Quote from: Carl deuty on October 10, 2011, 03:16:26 PM

You might be delirious if you believe this. As good as the Lions are, they are still only the second best team in their division. You say, " but they are tied with GB for the lead." To that I say, you are correct, but when it gets down to the nitty gritty, the Packers know how to win the big games and the Lions do not.GB has a top 3 QB, the lions only have a top 12-15 QB. Just throwing the ball up to the best receiver in the game and letting him out jump everyone is not that great. Lets see Stafford make some of the throws Rodgers makes into those tight windows, and then we can start talking Superbowl. Also, where is the Lions running game? You can not expect the Lions to make it through the season and the playoffs with a one trick pony, Stafford to Johnson. This is coming from a lifelong Packers fan, not a bandwagoneer.

Packers are 21st in rushing, lions are 31st. But given that the lions are top 10 defense and Packers are 30, I'd give rushing overall to Lions. I do think Packers can win, because Rodgers is the best quarterback in the league, but rushing is not even close to the issue. The Lions do have a decent shot at beating the Packers though, Matthew Stafford may only have one receiver, but he's THE BEST and the Packers' defense is looking weak this season.

lp670sv · « **Reply #111 on:** October 10, 2011, 10:47:28 PM »

So about that Jahvid Best

(posted 5 seconds after his 88 yard TD run

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #112 on:** October 11, 2011, 01:23:19 AM »

So he had two large runs of 88 and 43 yards. His other carries on the night were 10 attempts for 32 yards, not that great. Did he have a nice night? Yes, absolutely. Is he a better back than Ryan Grant or James Starks? Probably. Is he on his own better than the packers running game? Probably not.

Lions: 298 Yards through week 4. After week 5: 474

Packers: 495 Yards through week 4. After week 5: 553

lp670sv · « **Reply #113 on:** October 11, 2011, 01:53:43 AM »

Cumulative Rushing Defense Rankings of Lions opponents: 74
Cumulative Rushing Defense Rankings of Packers Opponents: 101

Cumulative Rushing Attempts by Jahvid Best: 72
Cumulative Rushing Attempts by Ryan Grant + James Starks: 96

Jahvid Best Rushing Average : 4.9 yards/carry
James Starks Rushing Average: 4.4 yards/carry
Ryan Grant Rushing Average: 4.5 yards/carry

Jahvid Best TD Totals: 2
Ryan Grant + James Starks TD Totals: 1

So completely disregarding the fact that Best is doing the work of 2 backs BY HIMSELF, he's still doing better in every statistical category except yards (24 less rushing attempts than GBs duo) and while facing tougher rushing defenses.

Once again.

Jahvid Best > Ryan Grant + James Starks

As for which TEAM is actually better. More Math time.

Cumulative Record of Detroit's opponents: 10-14
Cumulative Record of Green Bay Opponents 10-14

Average win spread of Detroit: 14.8 points
Average win spread of Green Bay: 12.4 points

The Packers average .8 points more then the Lions, but Detroit's defense is holding opponents to 1.6 less points then the Packers D. It's 2 a.m. so I'm gonna stop doing math now. Do I think the Lions are better then the Packers? I'm not sure. But to say that thinking they could be makes you "delusional" is just stupid. They're arguably the two best teams in the NFL and only there games this year can decide which team is better.

Carl deuty · « **Reply #114 on:** October 11, 2011, 06:52:31 AM »

I'm positive they said on the game last night that Best yard per carry average was 3 point something, not 4. Before the football discussion becomes less than friendly, I will quit commenting on this subject. Keep the faith my man, keep the faith. NFC North Pride-Lions and Pack.

lp670sv · « **Reply #115 on:** October 11, 2011, 07:46:54 AM »

All of those numbers are taken right from NFL.com and include all week 5 games

STAMP · « **Reply #116 on:** October 11, 2011, 01:16:47 PM »

All I know is that Jahvid Best took down my only remaining undefeated fantasy team. Of course, I still had a chance at the end of the game if Cutler could have thrown a TD...but it IS Cutler after all.

lp670sv · « **Reply #117 on:** October 11, 2011, 01:23:47 PM »

Quote from: STAMP on October 11, 2011, 01:16:47 PM

All I know is that Jahvid Best took down my only remaining undefeated fantasy team. Of course, I still had a chance at the end of the game if Cutler could have thrown a TD...but it IS Cutler after all.

This is the first week I've actually gotten to see Cutler play and not just looked at his stats, and all I can say is the man is doing a better job then most could with his offensive line. He got a chance to set his feet to make the throw ONCE throughout the whole game. Give that man a decent offensive line and he might well be one of the better NFL QBs. I feel bad for him, he's getting a terrible wrap and it's not at all his fault.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #118 on:** October 11, 2011, 01:29:45 PM »

Quote from: STAMP on October 11, 2011, 01:16:47 PM

All I know is that Jahvid Best took down my only remaining undefeated fantasy team. Of course, I still had a chance at the end of the game if Cutler could have thrown a TD...but it IS Cutler after all.

I was actually

impressed with Cutler last night. If it wasnt for some clutch passes under insane pressure, the game wouldn't have been close.

As for Best, he helped me win my fantasy game. I was down by 15 with Best to play and my opponent had Chicago's D/ST. His 88 yd. TD gave me the lead, and his 44 yd. ruah sealed t.he deal.

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