Author Topic: NFL Predictions (Read 23661 times)

lightningninja · « **Reply #25 on:** September 23, 2011, 06:03:27 PM »

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on September 23, 2011, 06:00:09 PM

Quote from: lightningninja on September 23, 2011, 05:56:23 PM
Psh, if you had Favre back in his prime (and by prime I mean year 1 on the Vikings ), why would you stain his blood with blood of lesser quarterbacks?

Lesser QBs? Johnny Unitas? Surely you jest.

Oh this is purely from a Brett Favre fanatic's standpoint. But still, I'd take a 1st year Vikings Favre over anyone, granted that's just me. And don't call me Shirley.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #26 on:** September 27, 2011, 07:10:37 PM »

Yeah, Favre has to be the most overrated quarterback in the history of the league.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #27 on:** September 28, 2011, 09:10:41 AM »

Quote from: Korunks on September 09, 2011, 03:53:46 PM

I predict the Bills will make me I wish I had grown up in another state!

Rereading the thread I found this. What say you now?

Red Wing · « **Reply #28 on:** September 28, 2011, 11:23:40 AM »

Quote from: Professoralstad on September 28, 2011, 09:10:41 AM

Quote from: Korunks on September 09, 2011, 03:53:46 PM
I predict the Bills will make me I wish I had grown up in another state!

Rereading the thread I found this. What say you now?

Any team who can pick Brady off 4 times and win should go to the Super Bowl.

Korunks · « **Reply #29 on:** September 28, 2011, 11:34:47 AM »

Quote from: Professoralstad on September 28, 2011, 09:10:41 AM

Quote from: Korunks on September 09, 2011, 03:53:46 PM
I predict the Bills will make me I wish I had grown up in another state!

Rereading the thread I found this. What say you now?

I have never been happier to be completly wrong. Go Bills!

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #30 on:** September 28, 2011, 12:04:04 PM »

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on September 27, 2011, 07:10:37 PM

Yeah, Favre has to be the most overrated quarterback in the history of the league.

25.4 Touchdowns and 16.8 Interceptions per season for "the greatest QB of all time" is crazy (includes one season of 0 games started).

By comp:
Brady (without this year): 26.1 Touchdowns and 10.3 Interceptions (includes two seasons of 0 and 1 games started).
Peyton: 30.6 Touchdowns and 15.23 Interceptions
Marino: 24.7 Touchdowns and 14.82 Interceptions
Tarkenton: 20.11 Touchdowns and 15.64 Interceptions (played 14 game seasons, which, over the course of his 17 year career, means that every other player got a "free" season with the two extra games)

This doesn't even account for the fact that Brady has 3 super bowls to Brett's 1 and that Brady's averages are significantly better when you take out his rookie season and the season he tore his ACL (29 touchdowns and 11.44 interceptions) while Brett's get only slightly better when you take out his rookie season (26.73 touchdowns 17.47 interceptions)

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #31 on:** September 28, 2011, 12:48:22 PM »

Olijar so bias. Numbers don't win games, Brett Favre wins games.

You mad?

Drrek · « **Reply #32 on:** September 28, 2011, 12:50:21 PM »

Quote from: Rawrlolsauce! on September 28, 2011, 12:48:22 PM

Olijar so bias. Numbers don't win games, Brett Favre wins games.

Except when he throws a game ending interception to lose the game.

STAMP · « **Reply #33 on:** September 28, 2011, 12:52:57 PM »

Montana and Unitas are laughing about this thread discussion.

lightningninja · « **Reply #34 on:** September 28, 2011, 04:55:45 PM »

Brett Favre's season on the Vikings, I would argue, is one of the best seasons any quarterback has ever had. Understand, he shares yards with the best running back in the league, and still had the best stats (but didn't get MVP because the league is biased against old men).

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #35 on:** September 28, 2011, 05:27:54 PM »

Quote from: Rawrlolsauce! on September 28, 2011, 12:48:22 PM

Olijar so bias. Numbers don't win games, Brett Favre wins games.

You mad?

How many Super Bowls?

Quote from: STAMP on September 28, 2011, 12:52:57 PM

Montana and Unitas are laughing about this thread discussion.

Fair point. I was just grabbing some guys that jumped to mind.

Quote from: lightningninja on September 28, 2011, 04:55:45 PM

Brett Favre's season on the Vikings, I would argue, is one of the best seasons any quarterback has ever had. Understand, he shares yards with the best running back in the league, and still had the best stats (but didn't get MVP because the league is biased against old men).

Blatanly false.

Favre: 531 attempts, 68% completion rate, 33 touchdowns, 7 interceptions
Brady's best: 578 attempts, 69% completion rate, 50 touchdowns, 8 interceptions

Difference: Brady did it without a running game of note.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #36 on:** September 28, 2011, 05:33:24 PM »

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on September 28, 2011, 05:27:54 PM

How many Super Bowls?

That answer would be a number, too. I don't use numbers. They're all fact and no heart. And that's exactly whats pulling our country apart today.

lightningninja · « **Reply #37 on:** September 28, 2011, 05:35:11 PM »

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on September 28, 2011, 05:27:54 PM

Favre: 531 attempts, 68% completion rate, 33 touchdowns, 7 interceptions
Brady's best: 578 attempts, 69% completion rate, 50 touchdowns, 8 interceptions

Difference: Brady did it without a running game of note.

Uh... did you read what I said? Exactly. Brady didn't have to share ANY yards, and had amazing receivers and all day every day to throw. Brett Favre had a losing record team, a bad line, and the best RB to share yards with, and had the best stats THAT YEAR.

Brady, in my opinion, is the most overrated.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #38 on:** September 28, 2011, 05:38:25 PM »

Quote from: lightningninja on September 28, 2011, 05:35:11 PM

Brett Favre had a losing record team, a bad line, and the best RB to share yards with

Not quite true either. Brett's miracle season was when the Vikings went 12-4, crushed the Cowboys in the Divisional playoffs, beat the Saints in OT of the NFC championship, and beat the Colts in the Super Bowl*

*How it should have ended.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #39 on:** September 28, 2011, 05:41:12 PM »

Quote from: lightningninja on September 28, 2011, 05:35:11 PM

Uh... did you read what I said? Exactly. Brady didn't have to share ANY yards, and had amazing receivers and all day every day to throw. Brett Favre had a losing record team, a bad line, and the best RB to share yards with, and had the best stats THAT YEAR.

Brady, in my opinion, is the most overrated.

I read what you said, but my point is that's it's about 10x easier to throw for yards and for touchdowns when defenses have to stack lines to stop the best running back in the league. Pretty much anyone but Tavaris Jackson could have been a serviceable quarterback for the Vikings that year. Meanwhile, everyone just knew Brady was going to be chucking it 40 times a game yet he still slaughtered every defense.

And I don't know why you keep saying Brett had the best stats that year. He led the league in.... percentage of times intercepted when attempting the pass. Yeah, that's a big statistic to lead in.

Brett Favre is a classic example of the sexy gunslinger getting way more than he is worth.

lightningninja · « **Reply #40 on:** September 28, 2011, 05:45:20 PM »

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on September 28, 2011, 05:41:12 PM

And I don't know why you keep saying Brett had the best stats that year. He led the league in.... percentage of times intercepted when attempting the pass. Yeah, that's a big statistic to lead in.

Uhm... he had 7 interceptions with a 1.3% int percentage. Compare that to Brees' 11 and 2.1%, and Manning's 16 and 2.8%. What are you talking about?

Professoralstad · « **Reply #41 on:** September 28, 2011, 05:49:50 PM »

Let me clear something up here:

Brett spent two seasons with the Vikings. LN is talking about season one, when the Vikes were one errant Favre pass from playing in the Super Bowl. Olijar is talking about season two, where Brett did have one amazing performance (highest total passing yards in his career in one game) but spent the majority of the rest of the season either on the ground, or on the bench.

lightningninja · « **Reply #42 on:** September 28, 2011, 05:51:10 PM »

Quote from: Professoralstad on September 28, 2011, 05:49:50 PM

Let me clear something up here:

Brett spent two seasons with the Vikings. LN is talking about season one, when the Vikes were one errant Favre pass from playing in the Super Bowl. Olijar is talking about season two, where Brett did have one amazing performance (highest total passing yards in his career in one game) but spent the majority of the rest of the season either on the ground, or on the bench.

That would probably be the confusion then.

Give him a break year 2 on the Vikings, he's old.

We'll see how Brady plays when he's 40+.

Right, let's not Blame it on 3 Peterson fumbles...

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #43 on:** September 28, 2011, 05:52:01 PM »

That's dandy, but for one, Brees and Manning took their teams further (largely because of their own dominance, not because AP is the best running back in the world).

Pecentage of times intercepted when attempting to pass is a ridiculous statistic. He didn't lead in actual number of interceptions thrown. He was efficient, which is all the Vikings needed since AP ran for 1400 yards and 18 touchdowns.

Even in the context of time, that was a largely forgettable season by Favre. The only memorable thing about it is the Favre drama in training camp, the Favre drama at the end of the season, and Diva Brett coming back the next year. If those numbers happened at another point in his career, no one would care.

Quote from: Professoralstad on September 28, 2011, 05:49:50 PM

Let me clear something up here:

Brett spent two seasons with the Vikings. LN is talking about season one, when the Vikes were one errant Favre pass from playing in the Super Bowl. Olijar is talking about season two, where Brett did have one amazing performance (highest total passing yards in his career in one game) but spent the majority of the rest of the season either on the ground, or on the bench.

I'm talking about season one also.

STAMP · « **Reply #44 on:** September 28, 2011, 06:13:44 PM »

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on September 28, 2011, 05:41:12 PM

Brett Favre is a classic example of the sexy gunslinger getting way more than he is worth.

So he texted you that picture, too??!!

lightningninja · « **Reply #45 on:** September 28, 2011, 06:49:19 PM »

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on September 28, 2011, 05:52:01 PM

Pecentage of times intercepted when attempting to pass is a ridiculous statistic.

I'm obviously missing something, I posted their int% ratings.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #46 on:** September 28, 2011, 07:29:54 PM »

It's the same thing.

lightningninja · « **Reply #47 on:** September 29, 2011, 12:16:29 AM »

So then how did he lead the league in that stat with such a low percentage?

CJSports · « **Reply #48 on:** September 29, 2011, 11:00:17 AM »

Can we talk about the new star in Aaron Rogers. 3-0 for the Packers!!!

Captain Kirk · « **Reply #49 on:** September 29, 2011, 12:27:09 PM »

Quote from: CJSports on September 29, 2011, 11:00:17 AM

Can we talk about the new star in Aaron Rogers. 3-0 for the Packers!!!

Who?

Kirk

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Author Topic: NFL Predictions (Read 23661 times)

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