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Just when I thought...
« on: January 21, 2015, 01:44:35 PM »
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...nothing could make me lean toward rooting for the Sea Hawks, we have this.

Sigh...

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« Last Edit: January 21, 2015, 02:49:34 PM by EmJayBee83 »

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Re: Just when I thought...
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2015, 02:08:35 PM »
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This is an outrage! :o

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Re: Just when I thought...
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2015, 02:20:57 PM »
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Why would an underinflated ball help you?

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Re: Just when I thought...
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2015, 02:23:28 PM »
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Why would an underinflated ball help you?
I could have been a mistake... maybe they messed up the other team?

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Re: Just when I thought...
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2015, 02:32:05 PM »
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The  colts kept the underinflated balls they intercepted.

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Re: Just when I thought...
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2015, 02:34:59 PM »
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The  colts kept the underinflated balls they intercepted.
Oh, thanks for catching that! ;)

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Re: Just when I thought...
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2015, 03:53:48 PM »
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According to what I heard - an under inflated ball is easier to throw and catch in bad weather games.
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Re: Just when I thought...
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2015, 04:00:13 PM »
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According to what I heard - an under inflated ball is easier to throw and catch in bad weather games.
I wonder who under inflated the balls? A coach, or was it an accident?

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Re: Just when I thought...
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2015, 04:24:16 PM »
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It's really, really easy to immediately call foul play on Belichick and the Patriots as a whole, but this feels a little too obvious. They know their balls will be handled by the officials and (potentially) the Colts. It just feels like it would be a little too easy to get caught, and even if Belichick would be inclined to cheat, I just can't see him being stupid enough to do something so detectable. Something doesn't add up to me there, and I'm reserving judgement until we get the official declaration from the NFL. I'm sure there is room for some kind of explanation that isn't related to intentional foul play. If the Patriots can't prove their innocence though, they'll likely end up losing draft picks. Fortunately, even members of the Colts admit that deflated balls don't account for 45-7, so this is something that won't affect the Super Bowl in the slightest.

Edit: Kevin Clark tweeted this this morning: "NFL head coaches here at Senior Bowl seem downright offended that people think this deflation stuff is a big deal."

As unpopular as the Patriots are even in the league itself, it's noteworthy that virtually no players or coaches are vilifying them for this. If the people who would know exactly what kind of an impact this would have aren't outraged, what are the odds the average fan is going to have a better informed opinion? I'm starting to get the feeling that the only people who will really make a big fuss about this going forward are hardcore Seahawks fans and hardcore Patriots detractors. In other words, cue Josiah in 3... 2... 1...
« Last Edit: January 21, 2015, 04:44:26 PM by Chris »

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Re: Just when I thought...
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2015, 04:30:49 PM »
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Heh heh heh.    <== Juvenile laughter at a sentence in Chris's post.

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Re: Just when I thought...
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2015, 07:22:01 PM »
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haha, @ chris,

I Jerome, not Josiah, am a hardcore Seattle fan.

I don't think deflating the balls themselves is a huge deal. I don't think it made the difference in the colts game. However, I do think it is significant that the pats game balls were rechecked at half and 11 of 12 were found to be deflated while 0 of 12 for the colts were. This takes out any weather as the cause claims that had been circling. Is this incident a huge advantage? Obviously not, but if the pats, or Brady, didn't think it made a differance they wouldn't do it.

Dose it make a difference? Who cares, the point is the patriots organization has deliberately broken a league rule to attempt to gain an advantage. aka cheated. (again)

Also, this report has now started to grow and pull out claims from other teams during the regular season. Could just be salty whiners but I don't think we can say its nothing. If it made a difference in one single pass or catch this season there should be actual consequences.
The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.

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Re: Just when I thought...
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2015, 07:38:03 PM »
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Dose it make a difference? Who cares, the point is the patriots organization has deliberately broken a league rule to attempt to gain an advantage. aka cheated. (again)

That's still being investigated though. I'm not positing that the weather had anything to do with it, but there are other possibilities, including that it was done deliberately, but not by the higher ups. Again, if in a couple days or weeks or however long it takes the NFL concludes that the Patriots did do it on purpose, I'll accept that and expect a removal of draft picks just like everyone else. At the moment though, for the reasons I stated above, I'm withholding judgement.

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Re: Just when I thought...
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2015, 08:30:06 PM »
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No need to try to figure out whether the Patriots really cheated or not. The important thing is to come up with a cool name for this.  Right now, the leading contenders seem to be "DeflateGate" and "Ballghazi." As I think adding "Gate" to something lacks a bit in originality--I lean towards "Ballghazi."

What say ye?

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Re: Just when I thought...
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2015, 08:37:04 PM »
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Yes but Ballghazi seems to imply that something of sinister nature happened in a certain country lately. We all know that couldn't have actually be the case.
The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.

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Re: Just when I thought...
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2015, 09:03:05 PM »
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deflategate rhymes though

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Re: Just when I thought...
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2015, 09:10:32 PM »
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From The Onion comes the following headline.*

NFL Investigating Whether Patriots Played Game With Properly Inflated Vince Wilfork


*I would provide a link to the article, but I have burned by The Onion in the past when I did that.

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Re: Just when I thought...
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2015, 09:12:19 PM »
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Yes but Ballghazi seems to imply that something of sinister nature happened in a certain country lately. We all know that couldn't have actually be the case.

"Spot the Republican" is really, really easy on these boards.

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Re: Just when I thought...
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2015, 10:02:29 PM »
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So only a republican would care about the death of an American ambassador?
The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.

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Re: Just when I thought...
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2015, 10:12:56 PM »
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This literally has nothing to do with football at all. I don't know why you even brought it up.

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Re: Just when I thought...
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2015, 10:16:55 PM »
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It was supposed to be a joke, you know the things you laugh at.

It wasn't political until you took it that way. Obviously it touch a nerve

GO SEAHAWKS!!! Beat the Ballghazies!!
(This is about football)
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Re: Just when I thought...
« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2015, 10:26:02 PM »
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Yes but Ballghazi seems to imply that something of sinister nature happened in a certain country lately. We all know that couldn't have actually be the case.

"Spot the Republican" is really, really easy on these boards.

it's like spotting a tree in a forest because it's literally the only thing here

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Re: Just when I thought...
« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2015, 10:42:24 PM »
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it's like spotting a tree in a forest because it's literally the only thing here
That's because the vast majority of people are Christian, and thus follow Christian values unlike dirty liberals.

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Re: Just when I thought...
« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2015, 10:44:58 PM »
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it's like spotting a tree in a forest because it's literally the only thing here
That's because the vast majority of people are Christian, and thus follow Christian values unlike dirty liberals.

You can't blame Liberals for not being as fully evolved as Conservatives

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Re: Just when I thought...
« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2015, 10:46:22 PM »
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Somehow a thread about the Patriots became even more terrible after we got off topic.

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Re: Just when I thought...
« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2015, 11:24:51 PM »
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Every one does this. That's been confirmed by every former player or coach that's been asked, and several current players have talked about it. The only reason this blew up is because it's the Patriots and everybody wants reasons to hate them. move along.

 


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