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He is only discarded at the end of the phase. Even with hunger, he will not die till he reaches territory and the battle is over. The end is just a clarification, it's not an instant ability. Or at least that's what some guy named Bryon told me... 

  so during battle a player could be (example)-3/1?)
that would be a interesting Character (example -1/-1)
they did it with Samsons Sacrifice

Hey,

So why does the errata not say to discard the */0 character after battle?  It still just says discard hero.  Other cards that say discard a hero, coliseum lions for example, discard the hero on the spot.

When play as is given to cards it is usually for a specific purpose.  So if a card has two different things in it's ability that merit play as often one will be addressed and the other isn't.  This would be one of those cases.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

So why does the errata not say to discard the */0 character after battle?  It still just says discard hero.  Other cards that say discard a hero, coliseum lions for example, discard the hero on the spot.

The confusing part about how to word a "Play As" or "Errata" is not to confuse parts of the ability. Hunger would immediately discard heroes outside of battle (as the SA implies). Ultimately, any clarifying text should be read with the rulebook still in mind. The rulebook specifically states that characters in battle can have a toughness below zero.

Hunger does not have a "discard" ability, it has a "decrease" ability. The discard is merely a "game effect." Coliseum Lions, on the other hand, is a "discard" ability, so the rules are different.

Quote from: adotson85 on July 10, 2009, 01:42:15 AM

So why does the errata not say to discard the */0 character after battle?  It still just says discard hero.  Other cards that say discard a hero, coliseum lions for example, discard the hero on the spot.

The confusing part about how to word a "Play As" or "Errata" is not to confuse parts of the ability. Hunger would immediately discard heroes outside of battle (as the SA implies). Ultimately, any clarifying text should be read with the rulebook still in mind. The rulebook specifically states that characters in battle can have a toughness below zero.

Hunger does not have a "discard" ability, it has a "decrease" ability. The discard is merely a "game effect." Coliseum Lions, on the other hand, is a "discard" ability, so the rules are different.

Does this mean that if someone is protected from discard abilities on evil cards, they can still be discarded by Hunger?

They'd be discarded by game rule, not Hunger, so that'd be allowed.

Hey,

For the record, characters in a territory that are decreased to */0 or less during battle are not discarded immediately.  All characters (in battle or not in battle) that are decreased to */0 or less during battle remain in play until battle resolution and are discarded during battle resolution if they still have 0 or less toughness during battle resolution.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

nope tim is right aka why my current defense is so evil mwahaha