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nice find! z's sin just got a whole lot stronger!

The AotL is what makes this work. 

and dont forget about grapes 

I didn't think you could insert a dominant when an instantaneous ability is being resolved, and interrupting is the only way to get around that, but I could be wrong on my exact interrupt rules

I've given this some thought, and this is how I see it:

a.  All abilities must complete before another card can be played.

b.  An opponent has the opportunity to play an interrupt card (if possible) if they are losing in battle.

c.  Dominants may only be played after all instant abilities are completed.

Therefore, if you play Wrath immediately followed by Angel of the Lord on your own Evil Character, your opponent gets the chance to play an interrupt PRIOR to the AotL because the ability of Wrath isn't truly completed until after the opponent has his interrupt opportunity.  If your opponent plays an interrupt, AotL's effect must wait to happen until Wrath's ability is completed, which, in tihs case, is after the interrupt ends.

So, you throw down Wrath and AotL.  I play Five Smooth Stones and negate Wrath.  Now Wrath's ability is completed (it is negated in this case, but the card is still completed), and so your AotL carries out its ability, discarding the Evil Character.

In short, no, playing AotL immediately after Wrath does NOT make Wrath unnegatable.

Kevin Shride

but what about with darius decree

What do Foolish Advice and Council of Abigale have to do with this?  Foolish Advice isn't causing anyone to lose the battle so it doesn't require that you give the opponent an opportunity to interrupt/negate.

Hey,

What do Foolish Advice and Council of Abigale have to do with this?

Foolish Advice followed by Council of Abigail was a very, very, very long discussion (500+ posts) back in 2000-2002 era that set the groundwork for how interrupts and negates would be played.  The conclusion was that abilities complete instantly, which means that a card must complete before you are given the opportunity to negate it.

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Even disregarding the Foolish Advice precedent, you can't play cards while an instant ability is being carried out.  And if Wrath isn't completed then I can't play Angel of the Lord, but you can't play a negate either (it's not just dominants that can't be played while an instant ability is being carried out).

Ah, but, Tim, you're forgetting the one exception, which is in the rulebook, and it clearly states that the only card that can be played here is an interrupt.  Until that opportunity is played out, nothing else can be played.  Not even a dominant.

Where in the rulebook does it say that bolded part?  If it is in the rulebook it would be news to me.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

so what say ye about darius decree active and i play hunger on defence killing all opponents heros? can i play AotL to stop opponent from negating?