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Offline RTSmaniac

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Who wins?
« on: April 18, 2011, 12:34:54 AM »
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Type 1 2 player, 3 rounds:

Both players have won 2 games and played each other in the 3rd round ending in a 3-3 timed tie. Who wins the event?
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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2011, 12:38:54 AM »
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It goes to LS differential,
if that's the same then they tie for first and second and they split the prizes and points
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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2011, 12:46:18 AM »
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so in this order?
wins
head to head
differential
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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2011, 01:00:10 AM »
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Quote from: RTSmaniac on April 18, 2011, 12:46:18 AM
so in this order?
wins
head to head
differential

Points
Head to Head*
Differential

*Unless there is a 3 way tie in points, then it goes straight to differential.
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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2011, 01:32:16 AM »
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Quote from: The Guardian on April 18, 2011, 01:00:10 AM
*Unless there is a 3 way tie in points, then it goes straight to differential.
Are you sure about that? If play A beat player B and player B beat player C, all have the same amount of points, doesn't it go A > B > C?
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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2011, 02:13:20 AM »
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As far as I know, it goes to differential whenever there is a 3 way tie for points. If 2 of the players have the same (better) differential, then it goes head to head. If they didn't play head to head, then you probably needed to have one more round in your tournament, but it would be a tie.  :P

In your example, C never got a chance to play A, so it would be unfair to determine the placings based on head to head match-ups when A and C have equal points.
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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2011, 04:13:58 AM »
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I'm pretty sure I've seen it ruled differently (as in ruled the way I described), but I can't remember where. It may have been at Iowa State last year but I'm not sure.
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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2011, 08:04:11 AM »
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Quote from: The Guardian on April 18, 2011, 02:13:20 AM
In your example, C never got a chance to play A, so it would be unfair to determine the placings based on head to head match-ups when A and C have equal points.

I agree that it would be unfair, but that's the very reason I got 4th instead of 2nd at Nationals in T1-2P in Boston, so that's the way it was being handled last season.

The elders talked about changing it as Justin describes and I believe everyone (including Rob) agreed that would be better but I don't know if he ever updated the tournament documentation or if the change was ever officially announced.

*EDIT* - the tournament guide still says this:

Quote from: Tournament Host Guide
Determining the Winner: The winner is the player with the highest game score after the last round. If
two or more players are tied for 1st place in game score, rank as lower any who lost a head to head match with a player tied for 1st.  If the players did not face each other, then the Lost Soul Score is examined. The player with the highest Lost Soul Score is the Winner.
« Last Edit: April 18, 2011, 08:13:50 AM by Gabe »
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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2011, 10:13:10 AM »
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What if the the 2 players tied for first did play against eachother, would the person who won in that match be the winner?
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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2011, 02:08:55 PM »
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Quote from: spicynumber1 on April 18, 2011, 10:13:10 AM
What if the the 2 players tied for first did play against eachother, would the person who won in that match be the winner?
Yes, by head to head.
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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2011, 03:20:40 PM »
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Three or More Clubs
(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated during any step, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of the two-club format).

1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss
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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2011, 03:48:52 PM »
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13.) Who's got more posts on the forums.
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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2011, 04:24:39 PM »
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I agree that it would be unfair, but that's the very reason I got 4th instead of 2nd at Nationals in T1-2P in Boston, so that's the way it was being handled last season.
Same reason I got 2nd instead of 1st at Nationals in T2-2P at California.  :-[ I feel your pain
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Re: Who wins?
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2011, 04:43:33 PM »
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I agree that it would be unfair, but that's the very reason I got 4th instead of 2nd at Nationals in T1-2P in Boston, so that's the way it was being handled last season.
Same reason I got 2nd instead of 1st at Nationals in T2-2P at California.  :-[ I feel your pain

Same reason I got 30th instead of 29th (out of 30 people) at Connecticut States T1-2P.   :'(   I wish I had your pain.   ;)
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