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Right... but since the "current rescue" would be a battle challenge, didn't it fail?
Where does it say that Panic Demon has to be involved in the RA failing in order for his ability to do anything? He went into battle, so his SA started and waited for the trigger. Later, the trigger happened so his ability would finish. Why wouldn't it just because he didn't actually do the blocking of the RA?Also, why would PD SA not happen until battle resolution if the trigger happened before that? The RA failed, so when PD came back into the BC, why wouldn't his ability then be triggered, pulling him out of the BC and putting him on a character?
Quote from: Cousin It on July 23, 2010, 07:15:22 PMWhere does it say that Panic Demon has to be involved in the RA failing in order for his ability to do anything? He went into battle, so his SA started and waited for the trigger. Later, the trigger happened so his ability would finish. Why wouldn't it just because he didn't actually do the blocking of the RA?Also, why would PD SA not happen until battle resolution if the trigger happened before that? The RA failed, so when PD came back into the BC, why wouldn't his ability then be triggered, pulling him out of the BC and putting him on a character?Battle Resolution = deciding if if hero wins or losesnot triggered until then
Battle resolution is when it is determined weather or not the hero rescued a lost soul. But in this case he was set aside when that happened. Does that mean the ability doesn't work when the resolution of that battle takes place? And if not, why wouldn't his ability work as soon as he came back since the trigger was still in the same turn/phase as when he enters battle?
Does a rescue attempt turning into a battle challenge (via SoG, LS shuffled, etc.) count as a failed rescue attempt? If yes, why does the SA have to wait until battle resolution?
The resolution of the battle Panic Demon is fighting in.
AtC simply pauses the first battle, a side battle happens, then the first battle re-starts right from where it was. Only the type of battle has changed, which matters not to the characters once the original battle had a blocker.
Please see my earlier post for two rulings I provide that answer this. In summary, it must happen in battle resolution because that is when the game determines whether a rescue is successful or not. It can't just be because SoG or the shuffle happen, because Harvest Time can make it a rescue again.
Battle resolution is when it is determined weather or not the hero rescued a lost soul.
Battle ResolutionAs is described in Battle Resolution in the rulebook, there are four outcomes to a battle: • Evil Character wins• Hero wins• Mutual destruction• StalemateHowever, beyond the outcome of the battle you must also determine the outcomes of the battle challenge or rescue attempt. Here is the order to follow:1. Determine the outcome of the battle (Evil Character wins, Heroes wins, mutual destruction, or stalemate).2. Determine success or failure of the rescue attempt or battle challenge. If the battle was a battle challenge, then success or failure of a battle challenge has only one condition, the battle outcome in step 1. If Hero wins and has (or has gained) access to a Lost Soul, it’s a successful rescue. If Hero loses battle or loses access to opponent’s Lost Souls, then the rescue fails.3. Resolve end-of-battle special ability based on the conditions established in Steps 1 and 2. All unaffected cards are treated under normal gameplay rules (such as discard, return to territory, Land of Redemption, etc).
