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People seem to be hung up on the "not in battle" part of the Lampstand ruling. To me, it is all about the "protect" part.
Protection extending to hands is another story.
I've always thought 'not in battle' should mean 'anywhere in play not in battle'
i completely agree, protect/immune/etc should operate as any other function and default to in play when not specified. doing this would take some much needed oomph out of lamp.
Quote from: Master KChief on March 05, 2010, 11:01:41 AMi completely agree, protect/immune/etc should operate as any other function and default to in play when not specified. doing this would take some much needed oomph out of lamp.Personally, I don't think Lampstand is especially OP, but...
I don't think anyone tries to 'nitpick' just to make anyone's life more difficult.
If there is a problem with a card, we'll look to errata for that card before a rule change for the whole game. When making a rule change, three of the important factors to consider are: (1) the current ruling (we don't want to change things too much or too often, or hosts can get out of the loop really quickly), (2) consistency (we want words and phrases to mean the same thing regardless of where it appears as much as possible), and (3) clarity and intuitive interpretation (we want cards to do what most players would assume they do at first read).Often those conflict with each other, and something has to give.
Quote from: Bryon on March 05, 2010, 04:07:38 PMIf there is a problem with a card, we'll look to errata for that card before a rule change for the whole game. When making a rule change, three of the important factors to consider are: (1) the current ruling (we don't want to change things too much or too often, or hosts can get out of the loop really quickly), (2) consistency (we want words and phrases to mean the same thing regardless of where it appears as much as possible), and (3) clarity and intuitive interpretation (we want cards to do what most players would assume they do at first read).Often those conflict with each other, and something has to give.Wow. That's a powerful montra that I endorse fully. We should have a stamp made up.Mike
.... one of a kind, highly collectible one too.
Quote from: YourMathTeacher on March 06, 2010, 01:30:10 PM.... one of a kind, highly collectible one too. You're too kind. I'm also one of a very popular group of board members with a highly attractive wife.
I forgot about all of YMT's "my wife is hot" jokes... good times, good times.
I guess I assumed 'protect' targeted cards like any other abilities, so that the targets default to in play unless specified otherwise (and I've always thought 'not in battle' should mean 'anywhere in play not in battle').
Protection extending to hands is another story.But if this is all that is changed, I would be satisfied. At least Mayhem would then work.
Personally, I like Lampstand, so I would rather not change to the latter point of view.
will we hear anymore on this subject or will this thread just disappear over time until someone says "I remember something posted on that but it seems to be purged."I think this is a something that needs to be put in stone so that other rulings can have a foundation to build upon.
I'm also one of a very popular group of board members with a highly attractive wife.