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I can't find my way around the REG if my life depended on it.
What are the rules for unique characters? What makes a character differant than another?
Can I have Both types of Gabriels (warriors\kings and Disciples)?
I know they can't be in play at the same time, but, in a 50 card deck is it legal?
I think not, but I want clarification.

thought so.
 but clarify please... "no" to all of the above

Okeeey. thanks.

The rulebook is outdated. You cannot have both KoT in a 50 card deck.

The rulebook is outdated. You cannot have both KoT in a 50 card deck.

More likely I misunderstood/misapplied it. The example used in the rulebook is the red-brigade David and the green-brigade David, which have a different brigade and different artwork.  For some reason, I thought they shared artwork.

My bad.

I don't know if it's still the ruling, but you used to be able to have Starter Deck "John" and Promo "John" both in the same 50 card deck despite them having the same name and brigade.  The artwork and SA were different, and that was enough to be able to put them both in your deck.

If that is the ruling, then I would like to ask for elder confirmation that what is written in the rulebook is wrong. I would also like to get the exact definition of what constitutes a unique character under the revised rules.

I don't know if it's still the ruling, but you used to be able to have Starter Deck "John" and Promo "John" both in the same 50 card deck despite them having the same name and brigade.  The artwork and SA were different, and that was enough to be able to put them both in your deck.

However, you were only allowed to have 1 of them in play at a time.

That's what I thought and I based my deck on this at the IA state, then in the middle of the tournament one of them had to be removed from my deck 

I think unique character deck rules were changed with the release of Priests.

They're on the Priests insert card if anyone has one of those close by.

It was Priests and this is what it says:

Duplicate Rules for Deck Building

1) Character cards with the same title and the same art are considered duplicates for deck building. Therefore, Jeremiah (white) and Jeremiah (teal) are duplicate characters and only one is allowed in a Type 1 deck of 50-99 cards.

2) Character cards with the same title and the same brigade are considered duplicate characters unless they are a generic character and have different art. Therefore, Michael (Warriors), Michael (Kings) and Michael (Angel Wars) are considered the same hero and only one is allowed in a Type 1 deck of 50-99 cards. However, Sadducees (G deck) and Sadducees (Apostles, 3 variants) all have different art and are generic characters, so one of each is allowed in a Type 1 deck of 50-99 cards.

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I remember typing this out on the boards a while back and wondering if the example for the first point was poorly chosen. Wouldn't you be allowed to have the non-SA Jeremiah with a SA Jeremiah? I don't see how duplicate rules apply to non-SA heroes since you are allowed to have 3 of the same non-SA hero in a Type 1 deck. Or, has that rule changed, too?

1) Character cards with the same title and the same art are considered duplicates for deck building.

A possibly interesting factoid that has stuck in my mind is that art that differs solely by perspective or color or magnification is considered "same art" for the purposes of this clause. See for example the Warrior's and Priest's versions of Fallen Angel.

Tres pedantic power-up points pour moi.

So I was right..... I think.....