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How exactly does the unique rule work?

If Creation of the World forces all Genesis heroes out of your deck, since it is not a may, it should force out doubles. In this case, it seems logical to me that the choice of which double to discard falls upon the owner.

Is this correct?
 

Answers the second question, however, does Creation of the World force doubles into play? If so, I've built a deck that breaks Type II.

Well wouldn't that fall under clause two so to speak,

If two end up under my control at once, I have to choose one to discard.

So if it forced duplicates into control, you choose and discard the "extras".

I think it does also, so I believe you would have to discard multiple copies of cards.  To bad you couldn't do it to your opponents Type 2 genesis deck, that could be quite cruel.

... wow. Just wow. I think I may know what you're thinking of, and if I'm right might I just say ow.

I came up with the idea for the deck before last nationals. I've tested it. It works. Infinite win condition.

I made a deck like this about a year back

the whole idea was to play creation as soon as i could (put the duplicates in discard) to thin out my type 2 deck and draw the doms faster

then just use a chariots and creation again

I was about to win the state 1st place for type 2 when I creationed and got wrath of satan'd with no heroes left : -P

Repeat combo getting back all enhancements with Micah and Asher (order of abilities prevents Micah and Asher from being negated by Jacob).

I'm confused.

(1) Provision Beniah
(2) Micah + Hidden Treasures + Creation of the World + all Genesis heroes from D-deck
(3) Discard all doubles (you have a double of every unique Genesis hero).
(4) Abraham's Servant to Ur on Jacob.
(Next turn)
(1) Activate Chariot of Fire
(2) RA Beniah, shuffle all Genesis heroes back.
(Next Turn)
Repeat combo getting back all enhancements with Micah and Asher (order of abilities prevents Micah and Asher from being negated by Jacob).

Oh, that's not what I was thinking at all.

Also, I'm confused as well.

I'm not going to bother playing mind games with you.  I'm just going to call shenanigans until you prove that order of abilities is a factor.

That doesn't make sense.  I don't see how you are banding them in, then discarding them, then shuffling them, before playing Ur.  And I don't see how Micah gets shuffled/reset/banded/anything at all in this combo.

That's where he thinks order of abilities come in, but I am pretty sure he is wrong.

If it negates the search it indirectly negates the band.

You band them in from the deck with Creation of the World.
The doubles are discard because of the unique rule.

Okay...

The provisions and creations are shuffled by Micah when he hits the table.
The Urs are shuffled by Asher when he hits the table.

Which cards would these be?  First of all, any Provisions' and Creations' would be shuffled by Micah before he plays an Enhancement and second, they shuffle from the discard pile, they don't affect anything you have in play, so you always have to have another copy in hand.

When Jacob hits the table last, he uses Ur.

Okay...

Because the previous enhancements are already shuffled, the cards are reset and are not relocated in the negation.

This I do not follow.  What previous Enhancements?  The ones from your last turn which doesn't affect this battle?

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Doesn't Abe's Servant negate the search part of Creation, returning the Genesis heroes to the deck?

Doesn't negate banding.

Read his post, please.  He didn't say banding.  He did say, correctly, that it negates the search in Creation and therefore sends them all back.

As far as I can tell, all you've done is produce the most elaborate FBN Provisioned Micah lone battle ever.