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Goliath's Items Question
« on: July 08, 2011, 06:21:35 PM »
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I have posted multiple threads about Goliath's items and only gotten ummmmmmmmm...'s.

Q1: Can Goliath hold his armor and his spear?

Q2: Can Goliath hold multiple copies of his armor and his spear?

Q3: Can Goliath hold multiple copies of his armor and his spear at the same time?

Goliath's Spear (Ki)

Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Black • Ability: 3 / 2 • Class: Weapon • Special Ability: Worth 8/10 if used by a giant. Goliath may retain as a weapon until discarded. • Play As: Increase abilities on this card to 8/10 if used by a giant. If played on Goliath, he may hold Goliath's Spear as a weapon until discarded. • Identifiers: OT, Depicts a Weapon, must be played as enhancement on Goliath in battle to be retained

Goliath’s Armor (FF)

Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Black • Ability: 0 / 5 • Class: Weapon • Special Ability: Bearer is immune to purple brigade. Cannot be negated. • Play As: Bearer is immune to purple brigade. Cannot be negated. If placed on Goliath, Goliath may hold until discarded. • Identifiers: OT, Depicts a Weapon
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Re: Goliath's Items Question
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2011, 06:28:23 PM »
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Re: Goliath's Items Question
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2011, 06:35:00 PM »
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My guess would be that Goliath can hold a weapon and Goliath's armor if he was holding the weapon first and then the armor was played in battle. Also that he can hold multiple copies of his armor at the same time. I don't think he can do the same with the spear though since it says that he can retain it as a weapon since you can only hold one weapon at a time.
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Re: Goliath's Items Question
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2011, 06:36:17 PM »
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Re: Goliath's Items Question
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2011, 06:39:38 PM »
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I would agrue that the Warrior-Class Goliath can only hold one weapon, period. Both abililties say "as a weapon," which means they follow Weapon-Class rules. These rules did not apply previously because Goliath was not Warrior-Class. Now that he is WC, he must follow normal rules for weapons on WC characters.
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Re: Goliath's Items Question
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2011, 06:56:21 PM »
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I'll agree with YMT until someone proves us wrong. :)
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Re: Goliath's Items Question
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2011, 07:36:32 PM »
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Goliath’s Armor (FF)
Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Black • Ability: 0 / 5 • Class: Weapon • Special Ability: Bearer is immune to purple brigade. Cannot be negated. • Play As: Bearer is immune to purple brigade. Cannot be negated. If placed on Goliath, Goliath may hold until discarded. • Identifiers: OT, Depicts a Weapon • Verse: I Samuel 17:5-6 • Availability: Faith of our Fathers

Goliath's Armor doesn't say as a weapon. That is why I claimed it was different than Goliath's spear.
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Re: Goliath's Items Question
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2011, 07:47:26 PM »
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Goliath’s Armor (FF)
Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Black • Ability: 0 / 5 • Class: Weapon • Special Ability: Bearer is immune to purple brigade. Cannot be negated. • Play As: Bearer is immune to purple brigade. Cannot be negated. If placed on Goliath, Goliath may hold until discarded. • Identifiers: OT, Depicts a Weapon • Verse: I Samuel 17:5-6 • Availability: Faith of our Fathers

Goliath's Armor doesn't say as a weapon. That is why I claimed it was different than Goliath's spear.

It can only be placed on him during battle, in which case it's either held as his ONLY weapon or discarded, or played during Prep / Discard phase in which case if he had another weapon it wouldn't stick. Either way, he only gets one.

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Re: Goliath's Items Question
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2011, 10:54:50 PM »
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Goliath’s Armor (FF)
Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Black • Ability: 0 / 5 • Class: Weapon • Special Ability: Bearer is immune to purple brigade. Cannot be negated. • Play As: Bearer is immune to purple brigade. Cannot be negated. If placed on Goliath, Goliath may hold until discarded. • Identifiers: OT, Depicts a Weapon • Verse: I Samuel 17:5-6 • Availability: Faith of our Fathers

Goliath's Armor doesn't say as a weapon. That is why I claimed it was different than Goliath's spear.

You are bolding the "Play As," which unfortunately does not apply.
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Re: Goliath's Items Question
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2011, 11:50:05 PM »
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To clarify, the identifier actually says: "Goliath may retain as a weapon."

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Re: Goliath's Items Question
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2011, 12:37:02 AM »
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I'll agree with YMT until someone proves us wrong. :)

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Re: Goliath's Items Question
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2011, 01:07:19 AM »
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I'll agree with YMT until someone proves us wrong. :)

I agree with Gabe (see what I did there?).  ;D

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Re: Goliath's Items Question
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2011, 03:58:34 PM »
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I don't see it... are you a wizard?

You were even part of the thread that he is referring to....  ;)
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Re: Goliath's Items Question
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2011, 05:28:54 PM »
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I don't see it... are you a wizard?

You were even part of the thread that he is referring to....  ;)

I have a one track mind, I can only follow one thread at a time...

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Re: Goliath's Items Question
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2011, 06:09:21 PM »
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Side note: It's a thread within a thread... Threadception.
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Re: Goliath's Items Question
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2011, 07:18:59 PM »
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Side note: It's a thread within a thread... Threadception.
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