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Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on July 26, 2009, 10:14:41 PM

Quote from: crustpope on July 26, 2009, 10:09:56 PM

but just having it up does have an effect on whether someone makes a RA that turn.  So in some ways it is more similar to Burial Shroud than anything else.

I can't tell you how many times I've been stalled by Unholy Writ because I had no banding and no way to deal with that artifact.

Sacrifical lambs.

Yeah. pretty much.  That an I Am Redemption is how I deal with it unless I have banding.   

I use Covenant of Palestine.

Also, those of you saying you can waste a RA to eat up UW... why not waste two to eat up AT? Same deal isnt it?

1 =/= 2

Remember the thread about games being over in 5 turns..... 

Still. You all say "noooo way, AT can totally change how you play" when UW can stall an opponent for a while if they arent prepared for it as well.

Stop arguing logic. This game's rules are based on how I want it to so I can win.

 

Quote from: Smokey on July 26, 2009, 10:39:20 PM

1 =/= 2-1 either, the -1 being the condition of AT (must block with an Assyrian) anyone can use UW in a deck, only Assyrian decks use AT

I'm assuming that you are using TI Graphing Calculator script, which reads 2-1 as "two times negative one," which I agree does not equal one.

Exactly, I used AT -2 times before you used unholy writ... 

Wait...Lambo and Arch Angel, are you arguing that the "discard after use" applies to its activation but not the action of capturing?  In other words, if your correct, then I could active UW in multiplayer and have it active for a whole round, capturing as many heroes as I want, because the "use" condition applies to the activation and not the capture.  Is that correct?  Or am I missing something? 

I am going by what the rulebook and REG say. I did not argue against AS because I wanted it weaker, I argued because the way that card worked just wasnt functional and inconsistant.

Same here, One card is ruled to die because it says "use," so why not all other cards that are worded in the same way?

And yea, assuming this passes you could. Good thing it's limited to "In Battle" right?

UW isn't a human EC so that doesn't work.

The rulebook clearly states that....  for "limited use" artifacts, which Rob clarified in the post quoted earlier. UW is not a "limited use" artifact. The phrase "discard after use" is one of those "clarifying text" thingies that have since been done away with. An artifact that says "May be used twice" is a "limited use artifact."

How is UW not limited? It can only be used a set amount of times, in this case once.

Both cards can only be used a set amount of times, Both cards can potentially do nothing (Holder not choosing to use UW, Holder not blocking with an assyrian), and both cards are killed by being used.

Is this a serious thread? Arch Angel just stop posting about this. Sorry if I am coming across rude but after reading all your "points" and seeing how every single person on here is telling you otherwise yet you are still arguing it, just for the sake of arguing. Unholy Writ is activated and one, there is no hero in battle, two it says MAY (which is a dead giveaway), and three why would you want this changed? Nothing good comes out of this being changed and what is your reasoning behind trying to get it changed? I see nothing good coming out of this "arguement". The only reason this is an arguement is because you are the only person that disagrees. Now I can guarentee you that this will NOT be changed to your liking, and it will stay the same way that it has been, and should be, for the past decade. Sorry, but come on dude for real? Drop this thread because this is a pointless conversation.

Unholy Writ is activated and one, there is no hero in battle

If there is no hero in battle, AT is still counted as being used. Your point is?

two it says MAY (which is a dead giveaway

Play As: When holder chooses, capture a human Hero during battle. Discard Artifact after one use.

Funny, I must be blind because I don't see MAY in there... and the Play As is what rulings are based on.