Author Topic: Two Bears with multibrigade cards (Read 3316 times)

BanjoMan · « **on:** April 30, 2017, 05:45:26 PM »

I play Two bears on Hosea against Ahab. Ahab is of course shuffled, but I also have Promo The Serpent, Every Man's Sword CoW , and astrologers all in my territory. Which would be shuffled?

kariusvega · « **Reply #1 on:** April 30, 2017, 05:58:04 PM »

All of them

Kevinthedude · « **Reply #2 on:** April 30, 2017, 05:59:37 PM »

Quote from: kariusvega on April 30, 2017, 05:58:04 PM

All of them

Depending on the targets chosen Astrologers wouldn't have to be shuffled.

kariusvega · « **Reply #3 on:** April 30, 2017, 06:04:44 PM »

One of each there are 7 brigades with ems

BanjoMan · « **Reply #4 on:** April 30, 2017, 06:06:41 PM »

Thanks, that's what I thought.

Kevinthedude · « **Reply #5 on:** April 30, 2017, 06:09:25 PM »

Quote from: kariusvega on April 30, 2017, 06:04:44 PM

One of each there are 7 brigades with ems

What if I choose to target Serpent for pale green and sword as crimson? I can't choose astrologers in that scenario.

kariusvega · « **Reply #6 on:** April 30, 2017, 06:14:36 PM »

There are 7 in play which means 7 or as many up to 7 are shuffled simply for ems

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #7 on:** April 30, 2017, 06:33:16 PM »

Two Bears doesn't shuffle per brigade, it shuffles one of each brigade present. Kevin's example is correct.

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #8 on:** April 30, 2017, 06:50:50 PM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on April 30, 2017, 06:33:16 PM

Two Bears doesn't shuffle per brigade, it shuffles one of each brigade present. Kevin's example is correct.

Agreed, because of how you select targets in regards to Two Bears

kariusvega · « **Reply #9 on:** April 30, 2017, 06:57:19 PM »

So what about all targets are selected when it's played? If the number of brigades is 7, how are you not picking one of each?

Gabe · « **Reply #10 on:** April 30, 2017, 07:12:19 PM »

It doesn't say "count the brigades in play and choose that many targets".

kariusvega · « **Reply #11 on:** April 30, 2017, 07:14:21 PM »

Okay sure so what are you selecting for gold, black, and all of the other ones?

Kind of trying to understand by that logic why you couldn't just do ems since it has all of them..

Kevinthedude · « **Reply #12 on:** April 30, 2017, 07:21:19 PM »

Quote from: kariusvega on April 30, 2017, 07:14:21 PM

Okay sure so what are you selecting for gold, black, and all of the other ones?

You just aren't because there aren't enough valid targets.

kariusvega · « **Reply #13 on:** April 30, 2017, 07:25:02 PM »

Right but if you get to pick whatever you want since the condition doesn't have to be met for 7 why not just do 1 of all? Ems

Kevinthedude · « **Reply #14 on:** April 30, 2017, 07:31:21 PM »

Quote from: kariusvega on April 30, 2017, 07:25:02 PM

Right but if you get to pick whatever you want since the condition doesn't have to be met for 7 why not just do 1 of all? Ems

Because you can only target a single card with it once.

The Guardian · « **Reply #15 on:** April 30, 2017, 07:33:16 PM »

with Kevin, Daniel, John and Gabe.

kariusvega · « **Reply #16 on:** April 30, 2017, 07:34:43 PM »

So I can just pick ems for all of them then

The Guardian · « **Reply #17 on:** April 30, 2017, 07:38:13 PM »

Nope, you select EMS for one of them then the rest based on what you selected for EMS.

Technically you could select one of the others first, but that would be silly cuz EMS is always going to get shuffled unless you have 7 other cards with all the evil brigades.

kariusvega · « **Reply #18 on:** April 30, 2017, 07:46:20 PM »

Yeah but it says one of each why not just pick 1 with each?

Watchman · « **Reply #19 on:** April 30, 2017, 07:47:46 PM »

One card per for each target brigade. That's how Two Bears' ability works.

Kevinthedude · « **Reply #20 on:** April 30, 2017, 07:56:45 PM »

Quote from: kariusvega on April 30, 2017, 07:46:20 PM

Yeah but it says one of each why not just pick 1 with each?

You are picking one of each. Pale green for Serpent, crimson for sword, and then you're out of valid targets since all the brigades of astrologers are taken. Everyone is just repeating each other at this point, there isn't really anything left for us to tell you.

kariusvega · « **Reply #21 on:** April 30, 2017, 08:30:37 PM »

"One card of each brigade" which ems is one card of each brigade

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #22 on:** April 30, 2017, 08:42:22 PM »

"Of," not "for."

kariusvega · « **Reply #23 on:** April 30, 2017, 08:46:26 PM »

yeah i changed my argument to the other end of the spectrum for the sake of unveiling the logic here lacking a two way function

i'm not confused on what is being said, i get the intention.

if you can select ems as crimson, serpent as pale green, to can't select astrologers in the end you effectively aren't shuffling a card of each brigade in play.

if you are able to do this, then you are able to select one card in play of each brigade.. which is in fact one card ems, which has each in play

Kevinthedude · « **Reply #24 on:** April 30, 2017, 08:55:23 PM »

Quote from: kariusvega on April 30, 2017, 08:46:26 PM

yeah i changed my argument to the other end of the spectrum for the sake of unveiling the logic here lacking a two way function

i'm not confused on what is being said, i get the intention.

if you can select ems as crimson, serpent as pale green, to can't select astrologers in the end you effectively aren't shuffling a card of each brigade in play.

if you are able to do this, then you are able to select one card in play of each brigade.. which is in fact one card ems, which has each in play

Where are you getting the idea you can target one card multiple times?

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