Author Topic: Trumpet Blast, is it cost/effect or do as much as you can? (Read 4052 times)

crustpope · « **on:** May 28, 2010, 10:52:06 AM »

If I am in a battle versus charachter who is immune to me. Can I play Trumpet Blast to discard an evil fortress even though I cannot discard the evil characters in battle?

Trumpet Blast
Type: Hero Enh. • Brigade: Teal • Ability: 7 / 0 • Class: None • Special Ability: Discard an evil Fortress or occupied Site from play to discard all Evil Characters in battle. • Identifiers: None • Verse: Joshua 6:8

Professoralstad · « **Reply #1 on:** May 28, 2010, 10:56:24 AM »

In answer to your question, it is both cost/effect and do as much as you can. You can pay the cost without getting the effect though. I often use Paul and Hidden Treasures with TBlast to get rid of any protect Forts, so that the next turn I can use AoC.

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #2 on:** May 28, 2010, 11:02:59 AM »

Quote from: Professoralstad on May 28, 2010, 10:56:24 AM

In answer to your question, it is both cost/effect and do as much as you can.

Just to clarify, the "do as much as you can" part is a one-way street.

You can discard the evil fort/occupied site AND discard all ECs in battle.
You can just discard the evil fort/occupied site.
You CANNOT just discard all ECs in battle.

crustpope · « **Reply #3 on:** May 28, 2010, 11:06:42 AM »

I just had an idea, there are plenty of protect forts, but are there any that protect against removal from the game?

I cannot think of any. so that would make all EC's vulnerable to Freedom! among other things.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #4 on:** May 28, 2010, 11:22:07 AM »

Gates of Jerusalem protects against everything your opponent can do to you. But no other protect forts can protect against removal.

3-Liner And Bags Of Chips · « **Reply #5 on:** May 28, 2010, 11:24:37 AM »

Quote from: Professoralstad on May 28, 2010, 11:22:07 AM

Gates of Jerusalem protects against everything your opponent can do to you. But no other protect forts can protect against removal.

Not Defensively Anyways...

crustpope · « **Reply #6 on:** May 28, 2010, 11:31:11 AM »

Quote from: Professoralstad on May 28, 2010, 11:22:07 AM

Gates of Jerusalem protects against everything your opponent can do to you. But no other protect forts can protect against removal.

Yeah, I forgot about gates of Jerusalem....man that is a powerful fort. That protects against EVERYTHIng. even stuff that hasn't been invented yet.

Captain Kirk · « **Reply #7 on:** May 28, 2010, 12:35:12 PM »

Quote from: crustpope on May 28, 2010, 11:31:11 AM

Yeah, I forgot about gates of Jerusalem....man that is a powerful fort. That protects against EVERYTHIng. even stuff that hasn't been invented yet.

Stupid overpowered TeXP Prophets who negate it with CBN status...

Kirk

disciple_drew · « **Reply #8 on:** May 28, 2010, 01:13:09 PM »

Quote from: Prof Underwood on May 28, 2010, 11:02:59 AM

Quote from: Professoralstad on May 28, 2010, 10:56:24 AM
In answer to your question, it is both cost/effect and do as much as you can.
Just to clarify, the "do as much as you can" part is a one-way street.

You can discard the evil fort/occupied site AND discard all ECs in battle.
You can just discard the evil fort/occupied site.
You CANNOT just discard all ECs in battle.

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #9 on:** May 29, 2010, 12:15:48 AM »

City of Refuge

Professoralstad · « **Reply #10 on:** May 29, 2010, 01:24:07 AM »

Quote from: RTSmaniac on May 29, 2010, 12:15:48 AM

City of Refuge

Not really a "protect" Fort, more like an "Instead" Fort. And the conversation was primarily centered around Evil Protect Forts (since TBlast can't hurt God Forts) even though that wasn't explicitly stated I guess.

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #11 on:** May 29, 2010, 01:31:01 AM »

I don't think anything can hurt 'God' forts

The Schaef · « **Reply #12 on:** May 29, 2010, 07:15:21 AM »

Those would have to include Chamber of Angels and Tartarsauce, then.

Gabe · « **Reply #13 on:** May 29, 2010, 12:40:16 PM »

Don't forget Dust & Ashes...

The Schaef · « **Reply #14 on:** May 29, 2010, 12:48:18 PM »

D&A is Old Testament, it can still be targeted by Set Fire.

that one kid · « **Reply #15 on:** May 29, 2010, 12:53:40 PM »

Wow, Elder pwnd by Moderator. Win.

Gabe · « **Reply #16 on:** May 29, 2010, 12:54:22 PM »

Quote from: The Schaef on May 29, 2010, 12:48:18 PM

D&A is Old Testament, it can still be targeted by Set Fire.

Actually, without giving to much away, I'm pretty sure D&A is one of those "God" Fortresses, untouchable by Set Fire.

The Schaef · « **Reply #17 on:** May 29, 2010, 01:07:14 PM »

The only "God Fortresses" in the game are NT Fortresses that play to set-aside area.

- OT Forts in a set-aside area can be discarded with Set Fire.
- Forts that cannot be negated can still be discarded
- Forts that are protected from effect can still be negated by cards like Spreading Mildew.

There is no OT Fortress in the game, past present or (if I have any say) future, that also has those other two properties. It is because of your recommendation, in fact, that Set Fire works on this card.

that one kid · « **Reply #18 on:** May 29, 2010, 01:10:03 PM »

Man, I'm looking forward to this card.....

Gabe · « **Reply #19 on:** May 29, 2010, 01:19:10 PM »

Quote from: The Schaef on May 29, 2010, 01:07:14 PM

The only "God Fortresses" in the game are NT Fortresses that play to set-aside area.

- OT Forts in a set-aside area can be discarded with Set Fire.
- Forts that cannot be negated can still be discarded
- Forts that are protected from effect can still be negated by cards like Spreading Mildew.

There is no OT Fortress in the game, past present or (if I have any say) future, that also has those other two properties. It is because of your recommendation, in fact, that Set Fire works on this card.

Doh, I forgot about that 11th hour change that made this card targetable...

The Schaef · « **Reply #20 on:** May 29, 2010, 01:49:31 PM »

Quote from: that one kid on May 29, 2010, 01:10:03 PM

Man, I'm looking forward to this card.....

LOL and you don't even know what it does yet, you just know there's a set-aside OT Fort out there somewhere.

Gabe · « **Reply #21 on:** May 29, 2010, 01:52:31 PM »

Quote from: The Schaef on May 29, 2010, 01:49:31 PM

LOL and you don't even know what it does yet, you just know there's a set-aside OT Fort out there somewhere.

That alone can be very exciting! Take Kerith Ravine for example...

fyero · « **Reply #22 on:** May 29, 2010, 02:01:28 PM »

What is Dust and Ashes I've never heard of that before. Is this a new card from the Disciples?

that one kid · « **Reply #23 on:** May 29, 2010, 02:02:10 PM »

Quote from: The Schaef on May 29, 2010, 01:49:31 PM

Quote from: that one kid on May 29, 2010, 01:10:03 PM
Man, I'm looking forward to this card.....

LOL and you don't even know what it does yet, you just know there's a set-aside OT Fort out there somewhere.

It seems to be making a good enough argument/discussion for me to like it.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #24 on:** May 29, 2010, 03:34:32 PM »

Quote from: BrianGabe on May 29, 2010, 01:19:10 PM

Quote from: The Schaef on May 29, 2010, 01:07:14 PM
The only "God Fortresses" in the game are NT Fortresses that play to set-aside area.

- OT Forts in a set-aside area can be discarded with Set Fire.
- Forts that cannot be negated can still be discarded
- Forts that are protected from effect can still be negated by cards like Spreading Mildew.

There is no OT Fortress in the game, past present or (if I have any say) future, that also has those other two properties. It is because of your recommendation, in fact, that Set Fire works on this card.

Doh, I forgot about that 11th hour change that made this card targetable...

What??? I must not have seen that version. That makes me sad. Ah well, at least it's still set aside, to make it protected from most things.

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