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Tower of Thebez Questions
« on: September 03, 2011, 09:10:50 PM »
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I have some questions about Tower of Thebez [While occupied and all your Evil Characters are Canaanites, negate Heroes. Protect contents from opponents. If attacked, you may return a card from here to territory.]

1. When can Canaanites be added or removed from Tower of Thebez? Is there a limit to how many can be added and removed at these times?

2. Suppose I am attacked, and I return the last card from Tower of Thebez to territory. Now Tower of Thebez is not occupied. Are Heroes instantly no longer negated? Does the special ability of the Hero who is attacking me suddenly activate?

3. Can My Lord and My God [If used by a disciple, negate and discard an evil card in play or set-aside area] be used to discard Tower of Thebez?

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Re: Tower of Thebez Questions
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2011, 09:12:23 PM »
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1 No
2 Yes (I think)
3 Yes

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Re: Tower of Thebez Questions
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2011, 09:22:27 PM »
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Re question 1, I think you mean "no" in that there is no limit. What about the first part of my question - when can characters be added and removed? The fine print on the card says, "Holds any # of Black Canaanites".

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Re: Tower of Thebez Questions
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2011, 09:40:59 PM »
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1. I know that people were playing that you can put them in and out before or after your battle phase at Nationals. However, when I read your question, I realized I'm not sure if that's right or not, since I thought there was a ruling that it can be either UNLESS it specifies a certain way to add or remove characters, like Tower of Thebez does. So for this I am not sure... I do know that you may only return one character to your territory when you are attacked.

2. Hero abilities are no longer negated. However, previously negated abilities do not try again to activate. If they were negated when they tried to activate, they will not activate later. At least, that's my understanding of a thread from a couple months ago. So this would allow you to leave your guy in there to negate the original attacker's ability, but still defend with him later.

3. Yes, if it's used by a Disciple. ;)

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Re: Tower of Thebez Questions
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2011, 11:12:15 PM »
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1. I believe that since Tower says "may" in the removal clause, you can place them in and remove them during normal put in/remove times. The optional removal clause is just another way to get them out. INE, though.

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Re: Tower of Thebez Questions
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2011, 11:41:11 PM »
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Characters can be added or removed from Tower of Thebez during your preparation phase. There is no limit to the number of black Canaanites that it can hold.
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Re: Tower of Thebez Questions
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2011, 12:49:28 PM »
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Just to be complete since it was mentioned incorrectly.  You cannot place characters into or out of a fortress after the battle phase (During the discard phase)  unless a specific fortress says so(currently there are none).

I only mention this because Ken had said this:
1. I know that people were playing that you can put them in and out before or after your battle phase at Nationals. However, when I read your question, I realized I'm not sure if that's right or not, since I thought there was a ruling that it can be either UNLESS it specifies a certain way to add or remove characters, like Tower of Thebez does. So for this I am not sure... I do know that you may only return one character to your territory when you are attacked.

Emphasis is mine.  So this was being ruled incorrectly at Nationals?
« Last Edit: September 04, 2011, 06:29:13 PM by Korunks »
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Re: Tower of Thebez Questions
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2011, 02:11:39 PM »
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1. I know that people were playing that you can put them in and out before or after your battle phase at Nationals.

Emphasis is mine.  So this was being ruled incorrectly at Nationals?  That is kinda sad.

Notice you're the one who said it was being ruled incorrectly. Ken only said people were playing it incorrectly. That is not the same as asking a judge and receiving an inaccurate ruling.
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Re: Tower of Thebez Questions
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2011, 06:28:58 PM »
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1. I know that people were playing that you can put them in and out before or after your battle phase at Nationals.

Emphasis is mine.  So this was being ruled incorrectly at Nationals?  That is kinda sad.

Notice you're the one who said it was being ruled incorrectly. Ken only said people were playing it incorrectly. That is not the same as asking a judge and receiving an inaccurate ruling.

I apologize, I thought I read that it was ruled that way.  I meant no offense.  I am glad the rulings are correct. :) 
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Re: Tower of Thebez Questions
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2011, 11:51:10 AM »
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2. Hero abilities are no longer negated. However, previously negated abilities do not try again to activate. If they were negated when they tried to activate, they will not activate later. At least, that's my understanding of a thread from a couple months ago. So this would allow you to leave your guy in there to negate the original attacker's ability, but still defend with him later.

3. Yes, if it's used by a Disciple. ;)
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