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Chronic Apathy

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Decrease Question
« on: February 17, 2012, 09:44:53 PM »
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I have Angel with the Secret Name in my hand, I put him in battle to make a rescue attempt, with the intention to exchange him. My opponent has Plagued with Diseases up. AwtSN's ability kicks in before the discard from the decrease, right?
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Re: Decrease Question
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2012, 09:54:58 PM »
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I'm pretty sure the decrease happens first.
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Re: Decrease Question
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2012, 09:57:00 PM »
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Quote from: Chronic Apathy on February 17, 2012, 09:44:53 PM
I have Angel with the Secret Name in my hand, I put him in battle to make a rescue attempt, with the intention to exchange him. My opponent has Plagued with Diseases up. AwtSN's ability kicks in before the discard from the decrease, right?
The ability happens first.
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Re: Decrease Question
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2012, 09:58:52 PM »
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Why? If you have a CBI OT hero up, golden calf would prevent in, so why would the order be the opposite in this case?
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Re: Decrease Question
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2012, 09:59:57 PM »
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Was his ability negated/prevented?  Then it activated.
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Re: Decrease Question
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2012, 10:01:18 PM »
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but for calf to prevent a CBI hero it would have to activate first, the artifact was active before the hero
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Re: Decrease Question
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2012, 10:12:46 PM »
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Yes.  Calf prevents.  PwD is a decrease, which is a different story.  AWtSN enters battle, so his ability activates, as it is not prevented/negated.  If he's still in battle, then he immediately dies.
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Re: Decrease Question
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2012, 03:51:22 AM »
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Quote from: SomeKittens on February 17, 2012, 10:12:46 PM
Yes.  Calf prevents.  PwD is a decrease, which is a different story.  AWtSN enters battle, so his ability activates, as it is not prevented/negated.  If he's still in battle, then he immediately dies.

I agree, his effect plays but if he is still in play, he dies. AwSN's numbers are part of an Identifier, so if X is higher than 2 (or 3 if your winning) he doesn't die.
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Re: Decrease Question
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2012, 06:17:37 PM »
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Quote from: SomeKittens on February 17, 2012, 10:12:46 PM
Yes.  Calf prevents.  PwD is a decrease, which is a different story.  AWtSN enters battle, so his ability activates, as it is not prevented/negated.  If he's still in battle, then he immediately dies.

I went looking in the Reg, and I CANNOT find what order these things would activate in.  That is, the CBN AwSN enters battle (or any hero for that matter), are increase/decrease ongoing effects dealt with before or after the SA on a card?  I don't think that this has anything to do with prevent, interrupt, negate, or any cannot be... on the card, but what order the abilities are considered as a hero enters battle.

Does someone know where this would be found?
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Re: Decrease Question
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2012, 06:51:31 PM »
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Nothing can come in between a character entering battle and his SA carrying out, unless that character has a banding ability and a weapon. Take for another example TToD; if an eligible King is blocked by Uzzah, Uzzah's SA carries out, removing him from battle; then, when TToD checks for a blocker, there is none and you don't get to draw or play.
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Re: Decrease Question
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2012, 10:29:29 PM »
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