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1. Woes only negate the individual card you target with it, not every card of the same name.

2. Hopper's ability completes before you have a chance to play SoG on it in the opponent's LoB. However, as long as you do it in the same phase Hopper activated, you can Woes Hopper to send it back to the opponent and then SoG it.

If I negate the hopper in the same phase with the SOG and by negating it, brings it back to my opponents LOB then complete the rest of the SOG ability and rescue it. Is that not possible? Am I correct on how that works?

Awesome! Good info to know! Thanks

Quote from: Ironisaac on February 22, 2018, 11:16:21 AM

Its ability completes before you get the opportunity to play sog. Basically, right when it's put in play, it's ability attempts to activate, sending it to your LoB, making it no longer a valid target for your sog.

SoG can rescue hopper if its played in the same phase. Or has that change?

There is no time you can play a dominant between your opponent drawing Hopper and Hopper's ability moving itself to your LoB, thus making it not a valid SoG target.

Yes.

My mistake, I didn't read kevinthedude's first reply carefully enough.

Son of God can be used to rescue the opponent's Hopper if it is played in the same phase Hopper was drawn. The rule is that you cannot rescue LS in your own LoB, not that you can't target them with an ability. By playing SoG to first negate Hopper, you are sending it back to the opponent's LoB (where it is first put in play for its ability to activate) and then it is in a valid location for you to rescue it.

Ok that’s what I thought from the beginning. So I played that right then.

Does this ring true even when you draw the hopper on your first 8 cards in the beginning of the game?

Ok so say I draw the hopper and it’s in my opponents LOB in the first eight cards. He goes first and plays SOG on the hopper. Is it able to be negated and return to my LOB and be rescued? Or is it basically the only time in the game you cannot do that?

•   Beginning the game: The player who draws the most lost souls in the opening draw of 8 determines which player’s lost soul abilities activate first. Lost soul abilities then complete in a clockwise direction (in the case of a tie, a coin flip or dice roll should be used).
•   Determining who goes first: The player with the most lost souls in his Land of Bondage after all abilities from lost souls have completed decides who will go first. In the case of a tie, a flip of a coin or a dice roll will determine who will choose the player to go first. Play then proceeds in a clockwise direction.

So these are not considered phases?