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« on: January 23, 2011, 12:07:27 AM »
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If a my card in territory says "your" and I force an opponent to use it (via CTR/CTB), does it's ability apply to the player using the card or does my ownership of the card prevent that?

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Re: Your
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2011, 12:09:55 AM »
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Whenever a Special Ability activates it is read from the perspective of its controller. So if you used a CTR ability and forced your opponent to use your Matthew, he would not count as "your" Disciple from his perspective. But if he had any other Disciples, they would.
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Re: Your
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2011, 12:12:31 AM »
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I believe it was ruled that "Your" requires ownership and control.

For example:

You Choose the blocker and force your opponent to block with a Crimson EC.

Your opponent uses Deceit of Sapphira to discard all cards in battle.

I do not believe you could use Herod's Temple to save the EC because although you own it, you do not currently control it.

I am not 100% on this, but that is how I've understood it.
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Re: Your
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2011, 12:13:41 AM »
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That's correct, but that wasn't what he was asking.
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Re: Your
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2011, 12:21:03 AM »
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Ah, I misinterpreted the question. Thank you for clarifying and +1 with Pol's response.
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Re: Your
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2011, 12:37:51 AM »
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If the ability was on ongoing outside of battle, would it continue to work for my opponent if activated by my opponent?

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Re: Your
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2011, 02:33:37 AM »
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If the ability was on ongoing outside of battle, would it continue to work for my opponent if activated by my opponent?

I'm not sure exactly what you're asking...could you give an example?
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Re: Your
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2011, 02:39:24 AM »
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Random Ability A "Protect your Evil Characters from Conversion while this card remains in play."

I force you to block with this character. This character survives to return to my territory. Are all your ECs protected from conversion still?
« Last Edit: January 23, 2011, 02:48:34 AM by Alex_Olijar »

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Re: Your
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2011, 03:47:33 AM »
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i would say the opponents Ec are not protected from conversion
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Re: Your
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2011, 12:50:44 PM »
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The ability works for the player who activated the ability.  What matters is who activated it, and whether it remains in play (either player's territory counts as "in play" for the purposes of determining one player's protection.

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Re: Your
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2011, 01:24:25 PM »
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Thanks Schaef. That's the answer I was looking for.

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Re: Your
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2011, 02:21:15 PM »
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If I choose my opponent to block with this dude, and then I rescue with him myself - Who's cards are protected at this point? Mine, His, Both?
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Re: Your
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2011, 06:58:24 PM »
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If I choose my opponent to block with this dude, and then I rescue with him myself - Who's cards are protected at this point? Mine, His, Both?

Yes. It's kind of similar to a situation with Judas. If you force your opponent to block with your Judas (after his ability had already been activated) then he is protected from discard by you and your opponent. It's a little different since the operative word in Judas' ability is "opponent" and not "your" but it's the same concept.
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