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Question about Elymas (bar-jesus) the Sorcerer
« on: February 17, 2009, 09:27:09 PM »
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Elymas (Bar-Jesus) the Sorcerer's SA reads: "Holder must discard a demon from holder's territory and may discard one Hero from each opponent's territory."

Question:  If you do not have a demon in your territory to discard what happens?  Do you still get to discard one hero from each opponent's territory?
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Re: Question about Elymas (bar-jesus) the Sorcerer
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2009, 09:29:23 PM »
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no because you cannot fulfill the SA its like if you deck and try to use Jepthaths SA it just doesn't work

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Re: Question about Elymas (bar-jesus) the Sorcerer
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2009, 09:30:21 PM »
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Elymas has a Play As in the REG:

Play As: Holder must discard a demon from holder's territory. If a demon if discarded, holder may discard one Hero from each opponent's territory.
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Re: Question about Elymas (bar-jesus) the Sorcerer
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2009, 09:46:01 PM »
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I probably should have checked the REG first, but that make since.  If Elymas had not received an errata it would have been way too overpowering. So much for that idea.
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Re: Question about Elymas (bar-jesus) the Sorcerer
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2009, 09:53:28 AM »
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no because you cannot fulfill the SA its like if you deck and try to use Jepthaths SA it just doesn't work

I think the way it's worded, you could get away with it, hence the "play as". EBJ doesn't have a specific cost-benefit ability, just a "do this, and you may do this too if you want" kind of thing. The "Play As" makes it crystal clear though. Jephtah's SA makes it clear you have to discard a card if you want to use the rest of the SA, not so in EBJ's case, IMO.

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Re: Question about Elymas (bar-jesus) the Sorcerer
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2009, 05:21:00 PM »
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butit says must discard a demon

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Re: Question about Elymas (bar-jesus) the Sorcerer
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2009, 05:27:20 PM »
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butit says must discard a demon

Are you asking a question?
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Re: Question about Elymas (bar-jesus) the Sorcerer
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2009, 06:29:20 PM »
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butit says must discard a demon
You must d/c a demon if you have one, regardless of anything, they could have no heroes, and you still would have to... O_O heheheheheheheheheheheheeee
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Re: Question about Elymas (bar-jesus) the Sorcerer
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2009, 06:31:18 PM »
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Hm...I think I like Tartaros a little better now.
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