Author Topic: The New Michael (Read 5217 times)

Ammian · « **on:** October 20, 2010, 02:01:22 PM »

Hey everyone! I'm back with another question.

→The old Michael said, "Michael and enhancements played with him cannot be interrupted, prevented, negated or redirected."
This was way too powerful - and even game-breaking - because it meant Michael could band to a FBN character (Strong Angel, Captain of the Host, Ira, etc.) and then play enhancements with special abilities that worked, while his opponents were utterly doomed. This got pretty ridiculous, and it made Michael the Archangel one of the few justifiable ultra-rares.

→The new Michael is a tad different. He says: "Enhancements played by Michael cannot be negated."
Does this mean what I think it does? If a FBN evil character comes out, does he interrupt and prevent Michael's ability (thus making it possible for enhancements played by Michael to be negated)? In this case, Angel Wars Michael would be nowhere near as amazing as he was in the Warriors set, balancing the game out significantly.

→If this is the case:
♦While I am certainly glad that Cactus Game design didn't make the same mistake twice, it would still be nice if they made the two versions consistent with each other (possibly through some errata). Otherwise, all they're really doing is forcing people to buy five factory sets, since the Warriors Michael is so much better than the Angel Wars one.
♦Is this the case, or is there some ruling I am not aware of? It seems that once again, people who got Warriors packs en masse (like me) have an almost hopeless advantage over everyone else. (For more information, see my thread on "Warriors Advantage" in the gameplay section.)

I appreciate your thoughts,
Ammian

3-Liner And Bags Of Chips · « **Reply #1 on:** October 20, 2010, 02:03:27 PM »

It does the same thing. It was made in Angel Wars so they just simplified the wording...

Korunks · « **Reply #2 on:** October 20, 2010, 02:08:22 PM »

Angel Wars Michael > Warriors Mike. He is warrior class and can carry the dreaded Angels sword. Although any thing Micahel Does CBN, ever!

Ammian · « **Reply #3 on:** October 20, 2010, 02:44:23 PM »

Oh ...that's odd ...why would they do that?

→In that case, do other characters with text along those lines operate the same way?
♦For instance, does Simon the Magician get to play enhancements with their full effect when facing The Strong Angel?
♦Likewise, does Esau the Hunter get to play Slave Trade with its full ability against Ira?
♦If not, why should Michael be any different?

Thanks,
Ammian

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #4 on:** October 20, 2010, 02:46:57 PM »

They do.

Ammian · « **Reply #5 on:** October 20, 2010, 02:54:16 PM »

WOW! SWEET!

Thank you so much. That information is awesome.

Hehehe...

Thanks,
Ammian

The M · « **Reply #6 on:** October 20, 2010, 03:23:59 PM »

I totally disagree with all of it and when I host private unnoffical tournaments Warriors CBN. Kings and Angels Wars can.
But that is what the ruling is...

browarod · « **Reply #7 on:** October 20, 2010, 03:32:32 PM »

Quote from: The M on October 20, 2010, 03:23:59 PM

I totally disagree with all of it and when I host tournaments Warriors CBN. Kings and Angels Wars can.
But that is what the ruling is...

I hope I never play at a tourney you host, then

Korunks · « **Reply #8 on:** October 20, 2010, 03:34:14 PM »

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I totally disagree with all of it and when I host tournaments Warriors CBN. Kings and Angels Wars can.

This is a joke right? Host must abide by the rulings.

3-Liner And Bags Of Chips · « **Reply #9 on:** October 20, 2010, 09:24:27 PM »

JSB23 · « **Reply #10 on:** October 20, 2010, 09:35:07 PM »

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I totally disagree with all of it and when I host tournaments Warriors CBN. Kings and Angels Wars can.
But that is what the ruling is...

Every host needs to know the ten commandments of Redemption

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #11 on:** October 21, 2010, 12:28:05 AM »

Quote from: Korunks on October 20, 2010, 02:08:22 PM

Angel Wars Michael > Warriors Mike.

Nebuchadnezzar says hello.

Master KChief · « **Reply #12 on:** October 21, 2010, 12:31:20 AM »

which is why kings mike > aw mike > warriors mike. especially since daniel can cbn band to him.

RedemptionAggie · « **Reply #13 on:** October 21, 2010, 12:34:26 AM »

Kings Mike is the only one with a Daniel reference, so Nebuchanezzar has no impact on AW Mike > WA Mike.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #14 on:** October 21, 2010, 12:37:22 AM »

Haha, definitely that warriors was from daniel. never mind...

Farin · « **Reply #15 on:** October 25, 2010, 11:59:54 AM »

so the ruling is New Mike plays as Old Mike?

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #16 on:** October 25, 2010, 12:08:14 PM »

Quote from: Farin on October 25, 2010, 11:59:54 AM

so the ruling is New Mike plays as Old Mike?

No. In order to redirect enhancements you have to interrupt. Interrupt + Prevent=Negate, so, basically, they all say "Enhancements used by Michael Cannot be Negated."

Farin · « **Reply #17 on:** October 25, 2010, 01:06:38 PM »

So Old Mike is broken and unstoppable and New Mike is a pain in the rump......got it

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #18 on:** October 25, 2010, 03:26:27 PM »

They're both the same...except for the reference.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #19 on:** October 25, 2010, 04:09:08 PM »

And the warrior-class-ness. And the artwork.

Michael isn't really that good TBH. Yeah, i'm going to let him play an enhancement, only 99% of decent ECs will have init. Gathered to TSA? Oh well. You wasted 4 turns to give me init to play something CBN on defense.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #20 on:** October 26, 2010, 12:21:44 AM »

Michael is good with: Angel's Sword, Striking Herod, and Protection of Angles. Nothing else.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #21 on:** October 26, 2010, 12:24:47 AM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on October 26, 2010, 12:21:44 AM

Michael is good with: Angel's Sword, Striking Herod, and Protection of Angles. Nothing else.

Funny, you just named the three useful silver enhancements...well, one only makes the useless ones semi-useful.

Ammian · « **Reply #22 on:** October 26, 2010, 12:27:07 AM »

I find it deeply ironic that this topic is so popular.

The M · « **Reply #23 on:** October 26, 2010, 08:48:53 AM »

At one time or another, silver was good believe it or not.

Red · « **Reply #24 on:** October 26, 2010, 09:02:17 AM »

I still don't see why silver is so bad. It has some awesome battlewinners. 7th trumpet anyone?

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Author Topic: The New Michael (Read 5217 times)

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