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Re: the magi: magicians?
« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2009, 09:09:52 PM »
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Re: the magi: magicians?
« Reply #26 on: August 20, 2009, 11:14:17 PM »
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so K cheif.
the magi were converted to christianity when they witnessed Jesus laying in the manger?
"Christianity" didn't exist then. In fact it didn't exist until a long time AFTER the messiah's death.

Well, it depends on your definition of "long time." The Christian church was starting in chapter two of Acts. And Christians were first called Christians in Antioch in Acts 11. So it wasn't all that long a time, but it did occur *after* Jesus' death.

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Re: the magi: magicians?
« Reply #27 on: August 21, 2009, 11:42:44 AM »
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He means Christianity as a religion.

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Re: the magi: magicians?
« Reply #28 on: August 21, 2009, 12:05:44 PM »
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Again, I would make the argument that Christianity as a religion jumpstarted with Jesus' death and really started gaining legs during the Passover in Acts 2.

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Re: the magi: magicians?
« Reply #29 on: August 21, 2009, 08:55:07 PM »
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It didn't start til at least 200 A.D or so, probably later.

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Re: the magi: magicians?
« Reply #30 on: August 21, 2009, 09:16:41 PM »
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Can I just point out one thing?  Just because they followed a star doesn't make them necessarily Astrologers.  It makes them Astronomers.  Not evil.  Also they were good enough to have God call them over with a miracle.

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Re: the magi: magicians?
« Reply #31 on: August 21, 2009, 10:38:05 PM »
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Can I just point out one thing?  Just because they followed a star doesn't make them necessarily Astrologers.  It makes them Astronomers.  Not evil.  Also they were good enough to have God call them over with a miracle.

Most astronomers do not track star patterns to find a king.  ;)
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Re: the magi: magicians?
« Reply #32 on: August 21, 2009, 10:43:49 PM »
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so is ronald mcdonald evil because he always asks if we believe in magic? hmm...

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Re: the magi: magicians?
« Reply #33 on: August 21, 2009, 10:54:37 PM »
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Ronald does have issues since his best friends are a thief, a purple blob, a canary/emu crossbreed, and a bunch of talking McNuggets.

I would be more worried about the evil magic influence of Barney, Dora the Explorer, and everything Disney.  ;)
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Re: the magi: magicians?
« Reply #34 on: August 21, 2009, 10:56:43 PM »
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It didn't start til at least 200 A.D or so, probably later.
It started right after the destruction of the temple (70ADish) when the Pharisees decided that the Christians could no longer be considered Jewish.
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Re: the magi: magicians?
« Reply #35 on: August 21, 2009, 11:08:00 PM »
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Ronald does have issues since his best friends are a thief, a purple blob, a canary/emu crossbreed, and a bunch of talking McNuggets.

I would be more worried about the evil magic influence of Barney, Dora the Explorer, and everything Disney.  ;)

...you mean your mcnuggets dont talk to you too? :(
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Re: the magi: magicians?
« Reply #36 on: August 21, 2009, 11:10:35 PM »
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...you mean your mcnuggets dont talk to you too? :(

I don't give them the opportunity.  ;)
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Re: the magi: magicians?
« Reply #37 on: August 21, 2009, 11:17:49 PM »
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...you mean your mcnuggets dont talk to you too? :(

I don't give them the opportunity.  ;)

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Re: the magi: magicians?
« Reply #38 on: August 21, 2009, 11:20:08 PM »
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...you mean your mcnuggets dont talk to you too? :(

Sometimes mine talk back when I'm digesting them...  ::)
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Re: the magi: magicians?
« Reply #39 on: August 21, 2009, 11:25:04 PM »
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Quote from: Marti
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Re: the magi: magicians?
« Reply #40 on: August 21, 2009, 11:31:29 PM »
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this reminds me of the new lost planet 2 demo that i played today. the first level has you fighting a gigantic dinosaur that sometimes slurps you up and you're forced to battle your way out...

...through the back end. he eventually poops you out, and you continue fighting him. epic. :)
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Re: the magi: magicians?
« Reply #41 on: August 21, 2009, 11:49:26 PM »
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The level of Off-topic-ness of this thread might be unprecented... :P
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Re: the magi: magicians?
« Reply #42 on: August 22, 2009, 12:05:10 AM »
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magicians -> magic -> ronald mcdonald, antichrist -> talking mcnuggets -> becoming monster dino poop.

yup, makes sense. :)
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Re: the magi: magicians?
« Reply #43 on: August 22, 2009, 09:20:48 AM »
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Quote from: Marti
Just like food, everything that goes in the body, comes out of it, and some of what comes out stinks pretty badly.
Way to bring back one of my favorite quotes again :)

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Re: the magi: magicians?
« Reply #44 on: August 22, 2009, 10:47:56 AM »
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Way to bring back one of my favorite quotes again :)

That's where I found it.  ;D
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Re: the magi: magicians?
« Reply #45 on: August 22, 2009, 06:15:08 PM »
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Since Daniel was regent over the area the Magi came from, and the head of their order, it makes the most since to me that he would have just told them what to look for and when to look for it. The Magi who found Jesus would have been from the same sect, and quite probably already believers in YHWH.
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