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Thaddeus: Protect all cards in play, set-aside area, Artifact piles, hands, and decks from Evil Characters with toughness X or less. Cannot be interrupted.

Does Thaddeus protect from enhancements used by ECs?

That's why Thad is a great card to use in Speed/Disciples decks.

Actually, I'm not certain it DOES.

You are protected from the specific card it targets, not the cards played on him.

Protect is not the exact same thing as immunity.

I really hope enhancements still work, that'd bump his overpoweredness down quite a few notches.

I would say no, since it just says "EC's with toughness..." and nothing about doms/enhancements.

Lambo you're wrong unless I can ACIB Red Dragon with  Salome.

Please re-read my statement:

Protect is not the exact same thing as immunity.

However, re-reading the current REG, it is actually kinda confusing.

Immune and protect are given two seperate sections, but this is listed under protect:

•      The phrases “immune to”, “ignores”, “cannot be”, “may not be”, “may only be _____ by”, “must be _____ by”, “no _____ may be, “prevented from being”, “protected from”, and “protect” have the same function.

I'm sure thats either poorly worded, or outdated, because I know for a FACT "Ignores" works very differently than everything else in that list.

Immune and protect are given two seperate sections, but this is listed under protect:

•      The phrases “immune to”, “ignores”, “cannot be”, “may not be”, “may only be _____ by”, “must be _____ by”, “no _____ may be, “prevented from being”, “protected from”, and “protect” have the same function.

I'm sure thats either poorly worded, or outdated, because I know for a FACT "Ignores" works very differently than everything else in that list.

That section of the REG is horribly outdated, and has been said to be so for awhile in various situations. The way I see it is thus: Immunity is a special type of protection that is specific to characters. That is, characters can be immune, but enhancements, fortresses, Artifacts, etc. cannot be. All cards can be protected from various things, but in a majority of cases (Thaddeus and Protection of Angels are two exceptions I can think of) Protect is restricted to being protected from effects of special abilities. So a Hero would say "Immune to Black Evil characters", but "Protected from discard abilities on Black cards" in various situations. In either case, the Hero could not be harmed by Wrath of Satan played on Fallen Warrior. I'm not sure why Thaddeus didn't follow the usual trend, and say something like "Protect everything from special abilities used by */<X Evil Characters" but I would say that his Protection functions more like immunity when applied to characters, and protection when applied to everything else.

That said, I would have to rule that Thaddeus protects everything from enhancements used by */<X EC's as well, as much as it pains me to do so. 

I would say the big difference between an "immune" character and a "protected" character is that the protected character can still lose by numbers.

That has been ruled to NOT be the case for Protection of Angels. A Hero who plays that and is losing BTN would be in a stalemate, much like immunity. If Protection and immunity are clarified in the next REG (which I assume will happen) that ruling may change.

If you play with enough disciples yes with the exception preventing his ability with CoM or something like that.

So Thad is basically unstoppable?

Daniel

 

Christian Martyr, Unholy Writ, Magic Charms, any of several cards that prevent Hero SA's (Confusion of Mind, Destructive Sin, Peter's Curse, Image of Jealousy), Satan's Seat (which might see more play due to the prevalence of Thaddeus and Job), and EC's with high numbers (the new Strong Demon especially) can all stop him. But yeah, with enough Disciples out, he can be quite the brute. The nice thing is that he needs a bunch of Disciples to be good, so it's not likely he'll be in many splash decks. I guess we'll see how it pans out in the end.

It should protect by the numbers or at least it does because you are protected from their numbers as well.

As per current REG definition (emphasis on the current; who knows what will happen?):

Protect

Protect allows cards to be unaffected by specified spe­cial abilities.

Confusion of Mind prevents his ability. He can also be taken care of with CM, Unholy Writ, Magic Charms, and any other non-EC/EE card.

the glass is half-FULL people. say it with me.