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A set-aside ability is always followed by or paired with another ability that is not a set-aside ability but rather is a
ongoing ability that lasts as long as all of the cards targeted by the set-aside ability remain set aside. The ability that
follows or is paired with the set aside ability defines the benefit gained from being set aside or when the cards set aside
should be returned (i.e., a duration).
When a card is set aside it is moved to the set-aside area of the player that has permanent control of it. If a duration is
specified on the set-aside card, the cards set aside remain there until the duration on the set-aside card is reached. If no
duration is specified on the set-aside card, the controller of the card that is set aside may choose when to bring it. When a
card returns from the set-aside area it goes to the territory of the player that controls it.
A set-aside ability with a specified duration returns the card(s) it set aside when the duration is reached. If it is a turn based
duration, return the card(s) set aside during your preparation phase. If it is returned prematurely, no further
benefits are gained. If a set-aside ability does not specify a duration, the controller of the card(s) set aside may return
them during any of their preparation phases.
A set-aside ability is instantaneous (but the abilities they are paired with are always ongoing). A set-aside ability targets
the card(s) that are to be set aside. The target for the set-aside ability must be the same as the target for the ability that is
paired with the set-aside ability.

Enhancements with Set Aside Abilities
A set-aside enhancement can be played in battle according to the normal rules of initiative. Set aside enhancements can also
be played outside of battle during the preparation phase or discard phase if they are played on a character of matching brigade
in the player's territory. Set aside enhancements played outside of battle cannot target cards controlled by an opponent (unless
the enhancement is a territory class enhancement).
Set aside enhancements are placed in the set-aside area with the cards they set aside. If a set-aside enhancement is played
during battle it remains in battle until the end of battle and then is moved to the set-aside area to join the cards it set aside
when other enhancements in battle are discarded. When all of the cards a set-aside enhancement set aside have left the setaside
area they were in the set aside enhancement is discarded.

Which territory does 'He is Risen' or Seized by Rioters go to?  Does if go to the territory of the heroes it set aside?  The second paragraph  What if I set aside one of mine and one of my opponents?  Which territory would it go to.  Just kinda confused reading the set aside section?  I'm not sure which bolded text applies in this situation.

'He is Risen' -Interrupt the battle and set aside X Evil Characters for X turns. You may add a N.T. angel to battle.
Seized by Rioters- Interrupt the battle and set aside 2 Heroes for 2 turns.

Also can Shrine only shuffle cards in your set aside area or does the set aside area part of ability apply to both players set aside areas?  I assume I can only shuffle from my set aside are but just wanted to clarify.

Shrine to Artemis- On activation, you may shuffle a card (except a Lost Soul) in your territory or set-aside area into deck to search desk for a black Greek and put it in play.

Thanks in advance.

Mod Edit: Changed the title to indicate the outcome, as there was an overall rules announcement.

"Set aside enhancements are placed in the set-aside area with the cards they set aside."

Your cards go to your set aside area.

So the owner of cards that are being set aside determine which territory they are set aside in? So if I set aside my opponents characters then my set aside card follows the cards they are setting aside and thus end up in my opponents set aside area?

OK...was just a little confused by the wording. Thanks for clearing that up for me!

cool! thank you for this official ruling! really helps clear this one up!

So what happens if I use SWS to swap with my opponent's EC and then set SWS aside with He is Risen? Who gets SWS when he comes back? I assume my opponent would because he is the current controller of the card but the rule change isn't quite clear on this unless we're supposed to use the original rules for instances that the updated ones don't change, cover, or clarify.

The rule clarification handles this part, too.

Whoever is currently permanently controlling the character has the character go to their set-aside, and it comes back to them.  Your opponent has SWS under their personal control at that time, so it goes to their set-aside, and then comes back to their territory.

And now Shrine counters HIR quite nicely

This is true...for now

Quote from: tripleplayNo3 on June 12, 2015, 01:34:46 PM

So what happens if I use SWS to swap with my opponent's EC and then set SWS aside with He is Risen? Who gets SWS when he comes back? I assume my opponent would because he is the current controller of the card but the rule change isn't quite clear on this unless we're supposed to use the original rules for instances that the updated ones don't change, cover, or clarify.

The rule clarification handles this part, too.

Whoever is currently permanently controlling the character has the character go to their set-aside, and it comes back to them.  Your opponent has SWS under their personal control at that time, so it goes to their set-aside, and then comes back to their territory.

Oh, I get it now. I was confusing "permanent control" with "owner". That makes sense. So, if I'm understanding your terminology correctly, the only time you would do anything with a character that you don't have "permanent control" of is when you band to one of your opponent's characters. So, when you band to your opponent's characters, you have "temporary control" for the duration of the battle, but your opponent has "permanent control" and he is always the "owner". And then when you exchange the only thing that changes is who has "permanent control".