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Tabernacle and Not Alone
« on: August 07, 2017, 10:45:14 AM »
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I have a question about the Tabernacle triggering off of Not Alone.

Tabernacle:
"If your Tabernacle Priest or Musician enters battle, you may exchange a good card in hand with a single-brigade, teal or white enhancement from discard pile or reserve. Cannot be negated."

Not Alone:
"Interrupt a neutral or evil card. Your lone human Hero may band to 2 of your human heroes. If at least 2 Heroes were banded into battle, this cannot be interrupted by an evil card."

Would Tabernacle (and similar cards* with the words 'enters battle') trigger multiple times when the heroes are banded into battle?

So in this case, you enter with one Tab. Priest, play Not Alone, and band two more Tab. Priest in, would Tabernacle triggers 2 more times?





*Eleazar, Son of Aaron: "If your Tabernacle Priest enters battle, search deck or discard pile for a House of Eleazar priest and a Priestly Artifact. This Hero and Tabernacle Artifacts cannot be negated."

I ask because Aaron's Staff specifically says "Once per turn...", Melchizedek says "Once per turn" and Tabernacle and Eleazar both lack the words "Once per Turn."

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Re: Tabernacle and Not Alone
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2017, 10:46:32 AM »
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Yep.  8)
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Re: Tabernacle and Not Alone
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2017, 11:13:22 AM »
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Re: Tabernacle and Not Alone
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2017, 03:15:00 PM »
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Quote from: h20tor on August 07, 2017, 10:45:14 AM
Tabernacle:
"If your Tabernacle Priest or Musician enters battle, you may exchange a good card in hand with a single-brigade, teal or white enhancement from discard pile or reserve. Cannot be negated."

Sorry to aks OT here: Which card is meant by this? Could not find it in Lackey - not by this name nor by that SA.
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Re: Tabernacle and Not Alone
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2017, 03:19:59 PM »
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The Tabernacle is the newest National promo--it has not been added to Lackey yet.
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Re: Tabernacle and Not Alone
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2017, 12:19:24 AM »
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Related: What defines entering battle? I am looking for a specific definition but will also provide a few examples.  As pointed out in the post earlier there are several cards that trigger off of entering battle and it's hard to say what would activate and when.

Priests seem to easily cause the problem right now. I realize these examples have a lot of similarities but they also seem to have some distinctions.

Examples:

1. Angel of the Winds exchanges for Eleazar. Do you get to search for another Eleazar priest?

2. Ithamar searches for The Tabernacle and puts it in play. You activate an artifact (or not). Does The Tabernacle trigger at the completion of Ithamar's ability?

3. Eleazar is in territory and Tabernacle is out. Zadok enters battle and searches out Phineas, son of Eleazar. Opponent blocks and gets initiative (not hard), and plays Joseph in prison. You play Not Alone to band in Phineas and need to exchange a good card in your hand with Zeal for the Lord. However, Joseph in Prison is also waiting to reactivate and remove all cards in battle from the game. Does he ever "enter battle" if special abilities remain unresolved?

4. Say you start with Seraiah the High Priest and play Not Alone to band in Eleazar and Zadok (who then bands to Ahimaaz). All three of these would potentially trigger The Tabernacle. Yes to three triggers, but do you have to decide when each enters battle (however that is defined) or do you resolve all abilities and then complete the 3 exchanges? Or could you activate two searches when the two characters from Not Alone are in battle and then the other after Ahimaaz is in battle?

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Tabernacle and Not Alone
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2017, 08:49:31 AM »
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"Enters/entered battle" is one of the things we realized was not very well defined previously. We have been reworking that somewhat--trying to keep it as close as to how most people understand it now while also making it consistent with other triggers. The update will be made in REG 5.0.
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Re: Tabernacle and Not Alone
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2017, 03:27:33 PM »
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Quote from: The Guardian on September 13, 2017, 08:49:31 AM
The update will be made in REG 5.0.

How far out is that? :D
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Re: Tabernacle and Not Alone
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2017, 04:00:20 PM »
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Quote from: h20tor on September 13, 2017, 03:27:33 PM
Quote from: The Guardian on September 13, 2017, 08:49:31 AM
The update will be made in REG 5.0.

How far out is that? :D

Summer 2021. ;)

Actually, we're getting close. Once we have things where we believe they should be we're going to tackle the expanded 4th Edition Rule book and release them simultaneously. So it will be a while before you see REG 5.0 but I expect it this fall.
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