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When can you put people into stronghold?  Can I put people in and out of it whenever I want?

Does it work for my opponenet?

Stronghold in the Desert - Type: Fortress • Brigade: Multicolor • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Protect contents from opponents' cards. While occupied, each time an opponent plays an Evil Character of a brigade he does not already have in play, discard the top card of his deck.

According to the Redemption Rulebook:

Fortresses
You may place any number of fortresses on the table as described on the fortress. You may add or remove cards in a fortress as described on the fortress. You may only hold your own cards in a fortress unless a card states otherwise. A fortress may not be used to gain access to an opponent’s sites.

So, in short, the answer to your questions (as answered by the others) are:

When can you put people into stronghold?  Can I put people in and out of it whenever I want?

No. You can only put warrior-class human heroes into (or take them out of) Stronghold during your Preparation Phase.

Does it work for my opponenet?

Your opponent can not put cards into your fortress, only their own.

If none is given, you can switch them in and out during Prep Phase.

SO it is meant to be like a goshen for WC heroes with the extra d/c SA?

the phrase "an opponent" would be read from the holder's perspective, so no, your opponent cannot DC from your deck with the SitD in your territory.

The Garden Tomb  Type: Fortress • Brigade: None • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: If opponent has a redeemed Lost Soul, then Salome, Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Peter, John, and Mary the mother of James ignore all evil brigades that do not have at least two Characters in play. • Attributes: Empty! • Identifiers: NT, Empty! • Verse: Mark 16:1 • Availability: Rock of Ages (Set 19)



Stronghold in the desert:
Type: Fortress • Brigade: Multicolor • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Protect contents from opponents' cards. While occupied, each time an opponent plays an Evil Character of a brigade he does not already have in play, discard the top card of his deck. • Attributes: Holds any number of OT warrior class human Heroes

Here they both are.  We have already ruled that my opponent can use TGT to gain access to my LS.  So why is opponent so special on SitD and not on TGT?  If my Opponent can use my TGT to gain acces to my LS why can't my opponent use SitD to discard the top card of my deck if the conditions are met?

I dont care either way guys, I just want consistency so that I can rule these situations correctly in Tournaments.  It seems to me that the first part of the SA deals with Opponents but the second part of the SA can be read independantly and for TGT it was read and interpreted independantly so shouldm't the same apply here?

Archangel is correct.

Crustpope, TGT gives nothing to the opponent.  It gives an ability to 6 named heroes - no matter whose they are.

SitD discards the top card of the deck when your opponent does something. 

Notice that the word "opponent" ALWAYS refers to a player OTHER THAN the holder of the card.

Yes.  That is correct.

There really is no harm in it, especially if you are using one of those brigades.  If gives you an N.T. */4 hero.  Possible female, too, depending on the brigade.  Female heroes are very important to the health of your OT males.