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Stalks of Flax + Goshen
« on: August 15, 2010, 02:17:10 PM »
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If i exchange a hero with my opponent and place it in Goshen, does it return to my opponent after the two turns?

Stalks of Flax (TP)
Type: Artifact • Brigade: None • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: On activation, discard this card to exchange two O.T. human Heroes in your territory with two Heroes in an opponent's territory for two turns. • Identifiers: None • Verse: Joshua 2:6 • Availability: Thesaurus ex Preteritus booster packs ()

Goshen (P)
Type: Fortress • Brigade: None • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Protect contents from all effects. If your Genesis or Exodus Hero has toughness */0 or less, you may place it here instead of discarding it. • Play As: Protect contents from harm or effect. Place or return Heroes during your Preparation Phase. If your Genesis Hero or Exodus Hero has toughness */0 or less, you may place it here instead of discarding it. Goshen may hold any number of Heroes of up to three brigades. • Identifiers: Play to territory. • Verse: Exodus 9:26 • Availability: Promotional cards (2008 Local Tournament)

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Re: Stalks of Flax + Goshen
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2010, 02:32:00 PM »
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The exchange is an effect, as is the exchange back. I would have to rule that based on the wording, Goshen would protect the heroes from the exchange back of the Heroes. I can't say for certain what would happen to the heroes if they were taken out after, say, three turns of being in Goshen. There are a few ideas that seem possible to me, but they all have problems. I would wait for further input before determining a result.
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Re: Stalks of Flax + Goshen
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2010, 02:57:17 PM »
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I see stalks as a one time effect even though it spans across several turns. I would argue that because they aren't protected when the ability activates, they would still return to owner's territory

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Re: Stalks of Flax + Goshen
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2010, 04:42:09 PM »
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I asked this at Nationals, Bryon said that Goshen does not protect since the exchange back trigger was set before Goshen's protect takes effect - I'm not sure if that was a real good ruling, but I bought it at the time, now it just seems fishy to me.
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Re: Stalks of Flax + Goshen
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2010, 01:12:51 AM »
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that just doesnt make sense that it would exchange back. it doesnt have protection when exchanged but then it gains protection from goshen. just seems odd.
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