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Re: HoH an Idol?
« Reply #25 on: June 09, 2010, 03:28:58 PM »
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Btw, Middle of the picture is the ark of the cov.

Actually, the card is a view inside the Ark of the Covenant. The wee little man is the tooth fairy. The Assyrian god statues... er, I mean Cherubim.... are keychain collectibles.

Personally, I think the Hobbit is offended by any card that depicts vertically challenged humanoids.
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Re: HoH an Idol?
« Reply #26 on: June 09, 2010, 05:12:51 PM »
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The lions with wings are the Hebrew images for cherubs.

Angels are not wimpy little beardless men, they are human-like with frightening qualities, such as 3 heads and eyes covering their bodies. See Ezekiel.

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Re: HoH an Idol?
« Reply #27 on: June 09, 2010, 06:00:21 PM »
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A cubit is the distance between the elbow and the index finger or roughly 18 inches.  That makes 10 cubits about 15 feet.

Not a disputation, just a comment/question. There are actually 2 different measurements for a "cubit" in history. The common cubit is the average length of the forearm. The Royal Cubit is the 18 inch forearm measurement plus an additional 6 inch handspan. This is referenced in, Eze 43:13  And these are the measures of the altar after the cubits: The cubit is a cubit and an hand breadth; even the bottom shall be a cubit, and the breadth a cubit, and the border thereof by the edge thereof round about shall be a span: and this shall be the higher place of the altar. If you read this passage completely, you will find that this is talking about the Temple. I am saying only that at one point the Temple used a larger cubit than the common one.

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Just make sure that if you reprint it (again), you use a better picture.
Yeah, Cactus should try to use a picture that actually represents what is described in Scripture. A picture where the cherubim are fifteen foot tall and have wing spans that stretch from one wall to the middle of the room.  Oh wait, that is exactly what we have now.  ;)
Cactus should try to use a picture that doesn't look exactly like an Assyrian god.

Although, you know what? I just realized something while posting this: The Assyrian god Ninip could actually have been a fallen cherub (perhaps even Lucifer himself) that was idolized and made into a god, in which case illustrations of him might be the most accurate examples we have of what the cherubim really looked like. This is an interesting thought indeed...

Many of the false gods of pagan nations were simple representations of actual beings. I would not doubt that this was the case with the mentioned one here.

I can't find a reference in scripture for the cherubs in the holy of holies ever being worshipped. There are references to other things given by God worshipped as Idols though (see Destruction of Nehushtan). If someone could point out one I will agree that HoH could be an Idol for Redemption sake.

1Sa 4:4  So the people sent to Shiloh, that they might bring from thence the ark of the covenant of the LORD of hosts, which dwelleth between the cherubims: and the two sons of Eli, Hophni and Phinehas, were there with the ark of the covenant of God.

I found this passage before posting my comments. This is before Solomon's temple is built. It clearly states that the Cherubim were in the Wilderness Tabernacle as well as Solomon's temple.
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Re: HoH an Idol?
« Reply #28 on: June 09, 2010, 08:37:58 PM »
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 HOH is to Idol as The Magi are to Magicians
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Re: HoH an Idol?
« Reply #29 on: June 09, 2010, 08:42:45 PM »
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We all know the picture on the card means nothing.
Except where another cards talks about "depicting."  The "pict" in "depicting" is the same "pict" as in "picture" (and has little or nothing to do with ancient Celtic tribes).
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Depicting a weapon comes to mind, Depicting an idol (obviously) comes to mind ,and Warriors Ittai comes to mind :P
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Re: HoH an Idol?
« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2010, 07:37:05 PM »
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I have a few more idol questions... I think the following should be considered depicting an idol for all intensive purposes.

Ark of the Covenant (If and only if you are of palestinian desent)
Magic Charms (There has to be an idol in their some where.)
Priestly Breast Plate (Man those jewls are so beautiful someone must have worshipped them)
U&T (Guardian and I  idolize it. )
Thirty peices of Silver (Money is the ultimate idol.)
Unholy Writ (I worship it on tuesdays and thursdays)
Holy Grail (Monty Python and/or Sir Lancelot du lake more/ less worshipped it)

There will be more to come.

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Re: HoH an Idol?
« Reply #31 on: June 13, 2010, 06:29:57 PM »
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So any shiny things are idols? TeXP ARE IDOLOTROUS.

 


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