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Two Bears isn't completed until one or the other happens. I'm pretty sure on one of the white cards it says dominants can't be played while special abilities haven't completed (it might be Priest white cards?), but I'm too lazy to go check.

What do you mean by that? Two Bears is still trying to complete its shuffle ability when I have the special initiative. You can't play a dominant until Two Bears is no longer doing that.


Atleast this is my take on it....

Exactly. Special Initiative by nature, happens BEFORE a card finishes its ability.

Otherwise, how can I stop a remove from game card? If I don't interrupt it BEFORE it finishes, my character is no longer a part of the game, and I can't play an interrupt on it.

I'm thinking about how it would play out in a 1 vs 1 situation. If you use an ability to remove my character from battle in any way, I must stop it BEFORE I leave battle, or else I have no EC's left to play my cards on. I can't have my EC shuffled, and THEN negate it mysteriously from the draw pile, and get a free shuffle as well.

I mean, that makes sense doesn't it?

The more I look into it, the more I realize the definition of interrupt needs to be modified.

Interrupt
Interrupt is used to temporarily stop a previously completed card’s special ability until the special ability on the interrupt card is completed.

Under that definition, I would say all battle winning cards cannot be interrupted, because once the ability completes, your character is no longer in battle to play cards on.

So... either "Special Initiative" needs to get a definition, or interrupt needs to be changed to say:
Interrupt is used to temporarily stop the special ability on a card that is currently activating or has previously completed until the special ability on the interrupt card is completed.

That's the situation, yes. It seems to me like opinion is leaning toward still being able to interrupt, which is madness.

All these pictures of dogs are confusing me... Which way is this being ruled?

That's the situation, yes. It seems to me like opinion is leaning toward still being able to interrupt, which is madness.

it is madness then.  it should have been done before AotL not after. 

ok so reverse question and this did happen to me in a game the other night.

I attack with claudia banded to Matthew. Opponent blocks with Herod the Great sending Matthew back to territory then CM my Claudia. I have initiative to interrupt with a purple card?

So how is my example different from the below example? If I place Matthew back in territory, then they CM Claudia- it seems compared to what ive seen i can still play an interrupt in purple...

Quote from: Prof Underwood on October 30, 2008, 05:16:51 PM
It sounds like you are saying that:
if a 8/8 GC makes a RA and is blocked by 2 5/5 ECs banded together, and
if the GC plays a GE that discards 1 of the 2 ECs, then initiative passes to the defender, but
if the attacker plays AotL on the 2nd EC, then there would be noone left in battle to negate the discard, but
the defender can still play the negate on the first EC that was discarded.

Is that right?
Quote from: The Schaef on October 30, 2008, 05:28:21 PM
If the player had an opportunity to interrupt before AotL was played, he still has an opportunity after.
If the player did not have an opportunity before AotL was played, he does not have an opportunity after.
So in this case, the passing of initiative allows you to play a negate on the first EC, whether AotL is played or not.
 
 
 

It's simple.  If you're going to interrupt/negate the removal when you have special initiative, then don't remove your character, instead play your interrupt/negate.  Once you've chosen to complete the action by removing your character you've passed the special initiative and has no basis for complaining when a Dominant is played.