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Some quick ones....hopefully.
« on: February 18, 2012, 07:10:47 AM »
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1. Using Zadok Anoints Solomon

Type: Hero Enh. • Brigade: Teal • Ability: None • Class: Territory • Special Ability: If used by a Tabernacle Priest, search deck for an O.T. good card with a brigade other than teal.

can i get a dual color enhancement that is half teal and half another color?
how about a rainbow card?

2.  If the special ability says to get a green enhancement (without any restriction added)...can I grab a rainbow?

3. Can you activate and deactivate artifacts/covenants (if covenants are held in sol's temp by book of the cov) in Solomon's temple the same way you do the other artifacts at the beginning of your turn?

4. If covenants are held in sol's temp by book of the cov, are they protected from discard by Glory of the lord or is the protection limited to the artifact - book of the cov?

Glory of the Lord (Ki)

Type: Lamb • Brigade: None • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Place in territory. Holder's Solomon's Temple and the artifact in it cannot be discarded or negated by an opponent.

5. The Name of the Lord (AW)

Type: Fortress • Brigade: None • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Set this fortress aside. If you have initiative, you may interrupt the battle and place your Hero on this fortress. Hero is protected from effect. Each time you rescue a Lost Soul, return one Hero to your territory. This fortress is protected from discard.

If you have banded one of my heros into battle and I have init. can I move that hero to this fortress? or is that hero considered "your's" while you have it banded into battle?

6.  if I play a card that says "prevent the SA of the next evil enh played" am I correct in saying that the only evil enh that could still have the SA go off is one that says Cannot be prevented at the bottom?

7.  If a rooster layed an egg on the peak of a barn roof facing north and south, which way (north or south? not up or down) would the egg roll?

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Re: Some quick ones....hopefully.
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2012, 07:23:20 AM »
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1. Using Zadok Anoints Solomon

Type: Hero Enh. • Brigade: Teal • Ability: None • Class: Territory • Special Ability: If used by a Tabernacle Priest, search deck for an O.T. good card with a brigade other than teal.

can i get a dual color enhancement that is half teal and half another color?
how about a rainbow card?

Yes to both. You can get any Hero, Good enhancement, or Covenant that is not mono-teal.

2.  If the special ability says to get a green enhancement (without any restriction added)...can I grab a rainbow?

Yes. Rainbow enhancements are all brigades. So John the Baptist can recur Preaching the Truth, for example.

3. Can you activate and deactivate artifacts/covenants (if covenants are held in sol's temp by book of the cov) in Solomon's temple the same way you do the other artifacts at the beginning of your turn?

Yes. Artifact activation is the same regardless of the location of the artifacts.

4. If covenants are held in sol's temp by book of the cov, are they protected from discard by Glory of the lord or is the protection limited to the artifact - book of the cov?

GotL says "the artifact" in it so this means it only protects the temple artifact, i.e., BotC. Someone could still negate/discard one or both of the covenants.
Glory of the Lord (Ki)

Type: Lamb • Brigade: None • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Place in territory. Holder's Solomon's Temple and the artifact in it cannot be discarded or negated by an opponent.

5. The Name of the Lord (AW)

Type: Fortress • Brigade: None • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Set this fortress aside. If you have initiative, you may interrupt the battle and place your Hero on this fortress. Hero is protected from effect. Each time you rescue a Lost Soul, return one Hero to your territory. This fortress is protected from discard.

If you have banded one of my heros into battle and I have init. can I move that hero to this fortress? or is that hero considered "your's" while you have it banded into battle?

In order for a card to be considered "your card" for special abilities, you must both own and control the card. Since you do not own the card, you couldn't put it in NotL. Also, since your opponent owns but doesn't control it, he could not put it in his NotL either.

6.  if I play a card that says "prevent the SA of the next evil enh played" am I correct in saying that the only evil enh that could still have the SA go off is one that says Cannot be prevented at the bottom?

Enhancements that say Cannot be prevented and Cannot be negated would work; as would enhancements played by an EC like Naaman or Nergalsharezer. Other enhancements will not.

7.  If a rooster layed an egg on the peak of a barn roof facing north and south, which way (north or south? not up or down) would the egg roll?

Depends. Is it a vegetarian or meat filled egg roll?
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Re: Some quick ones....hopefully.
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2012, 10:40:45 PM »
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1. Using Zadok Anoints Solomon

Type: Hero Enh. • Brigade: Teal • Ability: None • Class: Territory • Special Ability: If used by a Tabernacle Priest, search deck for an O.T. good card with a brigade other than teal.

can i get a dual color enhancement that is half teal and half another color?
how about a rainbow card?

Yes to both. You can get any Hero, Good enhancement, or Covenant that is not mono-teal.

2.  If the special ability says to get a green enhancement (without any restriction added)...can I grab a rainbow?

Yes. Rainbow enhancements are all brigades. So John the Baptist can recur Preaching the Truth, for example.

3. Can you activate and deactivate artifacts/covenants (if covenants are held in sol's temp by book of the cov) in Solomon's temple the same way you do the other artifacts at the beginning of your turn?

Yes. Artifact activation is the same regardless of the location of the artifacts.

4. If covenants are held in sol's temp by book of the cov, are they protected from discard by Glory of the lord or is the protection limited to the artifact - book of the cov?

GotL says "the artifact" in it so this means it only protects the temple artifact, i.e., BotC. Someone could still negate/discard one or both of the covenants.
Glory of the Lord (Ki)

Type: Lamb • Brigade: None • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Place in territory. Holder's Solomon's Temple and the artifact in it cannot be discarded or negated by an opponent.

5. The Name of the Lord (AW)

Type: Fortress • Brigade: None • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Set this fortress aside. If you have initiative, you may interrupt the battle and place your Hero on this fortress. Hero is protected from effect. Each time you rescue a Lost Soul, return one Hero to your territory. This fortress is protected from discard.

If you have banded one of my heros into battle and I have init. can I move that hero to this fortress? or is that hero considered "your's" while you have it banded into battle?

In order for a card to be considered "your card" for special abilities, you must both own and control the card. Since you do not own the card, you couldn't put it in NotL. Also, since your opponent owns but doesn't control it, he could not put it in his NotL either.

6.  if I play a card that says "prevent the SA of the next evil enh played" am I correct in saying that the only evil enh that could still have the SA go off is one that says Cannot be prevented at the bottom?

Enhancements that say Cannot be prevented and Cannot be negated would work; as would enhancements played by an EC like Naaman or Nergalsharezer. Other enhancements will not.

7.  If a rooster layed an egg on the peak of a barn roof facing north and south, which way (north or south? not up or down) would the egg roll?

Depends. Is it a vegetarian or meat filled egg roll?

I'm not so sure on the Multi cards. I would actually say that Dual-Color cards cannot be searched by Zadok anoints Solomon if it's half-Teal. My argument would be the same for why if u ignore half of a Dual-Color card, the whole card is Ignored. The Card excludes Teal. Also, from what I've heard, Multi is it's own brigade, that everyone can use. Therefore it cannot be searched except by a card stating Multi Enhancement or doesn't Identify a brigade.
They seem pretty lame as fighters maybe we should challenge them to a dance off or a redemption game

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Re: Some quick ones....hopefully.
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2012, 12:19:18 AM »
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...You do realize you're debating rules with an Elder, right? 
1.) ZAS says "brigade other than Teal."  Zeke has a brigade other than Teal, so you can grab him.  It'd work the way you want it to if it said "Not Teal Brigade"

2.) There is no "Multi" brigade.  It's simply ALL THE BRIGADES (cue lp).  Thus, Paul can play an enhancement of HT, because he's a lone Green prophet.  (The best part is playing Gathering on Paul).
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Re: Some quick ones....hopefully.
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2012, 12:49:56 AM »
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Is the barn north or south of the equator? Which ever it is I'd say the egg rolls that way because of the stronger magnetic pull  ???
The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.

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Re: Some quick ones....hopefully.
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2012, 12:59:09 AM »
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Is the barn north or south of the equator? Which ever it is I'd say the egg rolls that way because of the stronger magnetic pull  ???

Roosters don't lay eggs.

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Re: Some quick ones....hopefully.
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2012, 01:04:22 AM »
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Anything can "lay" an egg. You can "lay" a pice of paper on a table, and as its a hypothetical question I can see a rooster neatly "laying" an egg on the center of a roof  :laugh:
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Re: Some quick ones....hopefully.
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2012, 02:06:30 AM »
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...You do realize you're debating rules with an Elder, right? 
1.) ZAS says "brigade other than Teal."  Zeke has a brigade other than Teal, so you can grab him.  It'd work the way you want it to if it said "Not Teal Brigade"

2.) There is no "Multi" brigade.  It's simply ALL THE BRIGADES (cue lp).  Thus, Paul can play an enhancement of HT, because he's a lone Green prophet.  (The best part is playing Gathering on Paul).

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Re: Some quick ones....hopefully.
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2012, 03:44:45 AM »
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...You do realize you're debating rules with an Elder, right? 
1.) ZAS says "brigade other than Teal."  Zeke has a brigade other than Teal, so you can grab him.  It'd work the way you want it to if it said "Not Teal Brigade"

2.) There is no "Multi" brigade.  It's simply ALL THE BRIGADES (cue lp).  Thus, Paul can play an enhancement of HT, because he's a lone Green prophet.  (The best part is playing Gathering on Paul).

It doesn't state he's an Elder, I'm just bringing up what the understanding is from my area. I don't understand how TAS can pull a card like Gan meets Zach if it states it can't pull a Teal card.
They seem pretty lame as fighters maybe we should challenge them to a dance off or a redemption game

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Re: Some quick ones....hopefully.
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2012, 01:28:09 PM »
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...You do realize you're debating rules with an Elder, right? 
1.) ZAS says "brigade other than Teal."  Zeke has a brigade other than Teal, so you can grab him.  It'd work the way you want it to if it said "Not Teal Brigade"

2.) There is no "Multi" brigade.  It's simply ALL THE BRIGADES (cue lp).  Thus, Paul can play an enhancement of HT, because he's a lone Green prophet.  (The best part is playing Gathering on Paul).

It doesn't state he's an Elder, I'm just bringing up what the understanding is from my area. I don't understand how TAS can pull a card like Gan meets Zach if it states it can't pull a Teal card.

Prof A is an Elder, as am I - Because we both Moderate this section, the Moderator tag overrides the Elder one (I'm not sure why this is, but it's annoying)

Prof A is also correct with all his answers.

Zadok Anoints Solomon can search for a teal card, because Zadok Anoints Solomon is worded as an exclusion, and not a restrict.

It says: "search deck for an O.T. good card with a brigade other than teal"

If it was worded "search deck for a non-teal O.T. good card" Then you would be correct that you cannot search for a split brigade teal card.
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Re: Some quick ones....hopefully.
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2012, 01:38:50 PM »
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Okay, that is interesting...
My understanding of the Dual-brigade cards is that they have 2 brigades. I guess I just don't understand that... But then wouldn't this mean that I can't search a Dual-Brigade card if it states "Search for a Green Enhancement"? because that would be my understanding from this ruling.
They seem pretty lame as fighters maybe we should challenge them to a dance off or a redemption game

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Re: Some quick ones....hopefully.
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2012, 01:45:07 PM »
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I'm honestly not sure how I can explain it to you then.

If I have a Green/Teal card - Lets use Aaron as an example.

Aaron is a Green brigade prophet.
Aaron is also a Teal brigade priest.

I can target any of those identifiers that I want when searching for him.

Thus, if I have a card that says search for a green brigade character, I can grab him, because he's Green brigade.
I can also search for him with a card that says search for a Teal brigade character, Since he's also Teal.

I can search for him with a card that searches for a Prophet, since he is one.
I can also search for him with a card that searches for a Priest, since he is one.
I can also search for him with a card that says search for somebody who is both a prophet and a priest, since he is.
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Re: Some quick ones....hopefully.
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2012, 01:49:46 PM »
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The above is pretty much how it works.  That's two Elders and two REPs, all in agreement.
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Re: Some quick ones....hopefully.
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2012, 07:08:44 PM »
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I guess... I just dont get how that can fit with how TAS works right now... But I guess it doesn't matter because I have yet to have an Opponent play it against me.
They seem pretty lame as fighters maybe we should challenge them to a dance off or a redemption game

 


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