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some older questions
« on: August 21, 2017, 08:04:21 AM »
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1. opponent RA with Moses, I block and play grapes.  opponent gets to make another RA and uses AUTO.  Since it is a new battle, can he search for Moses and add him to battle?

2. for "once per game" abilities, is it still once per game per player?

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Re: some older questions
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2017, 09:16:57 AM »
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So I will attempt to answer the way I play it and I believe is right but I'm not a 100% sure so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

#1 unique characters can only enter battle once per turn so since it's a new battle normally he would not be able able to enter the battle a second time. But because he was shuffled into the deck (or if he was put into hand) he resets so AUTO can search out Moses and exchange with him because Moses was reset once he was Shuffle into the deck.

#2 Yes it is once per game per player.

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Re: some older questions
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2017, 09:37:53 AM »
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1. I thought that was something the game remembers, like once per game, that a unique character has entered battle

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Re: some older questions
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2017, 12:07:18 PM »
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So I will attempt to answer the way I play it and I believe is right but I'm not a 100% sure so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

#1 unique characters can only enter battle once per turn so since it's a new battle normally he would not be able able to enter the battle a second time. But because he was shuffled into the deck (or if he was put into hand) he resets so AUTO can search out Moses and exchange with him because Moses was reset once he was Shuffle into the deck.

#2 Yes it is once per game per player.

Being shuffled in to the deck doesn't matter. A unique character can only enter battle once per turn, period. It isn't something you can reset by having the character leave play because it isn't tied to the character.
« Last Edit: August 21, 2017, 12:17:19 PM by Kevinthedude »

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Re: some older questions
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2017, 12:10:25 PM »
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#1 Wouldn't grapes create a new battle phase thus allowing him to enter battle twice? At 2016 nats Brian Jones vs Gabe Isbell it was ruled that way. You can see it for yourself from the video on youtube. 15:00 to be precise.

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Re: some older questions
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2017, 12:20:31 PM »
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#1 Wouldn't grapes create a new battle phase thus allowing him to enter battle twice? At 2016 nats Brian Jones vs Gabe Isbell it was ruled that way. You can see it for yourself from the video on youtube. 15:00 to be precise.

It is a different phase but a unique character can only enter battle once per turn, not once per phase.

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Re: some older questions
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2017, 12:22:49 PM »
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I haven't watched that video, but I'll see if I can check it out later.
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« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2017, 12:25:23 PM »
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I haven't watched that video, but I'll see if I can check it out later.

The video just has Grapes being ruled to create a new phase (AUTO attacked the first battle, Brian attacked with Gideon in the second battle thinking it would still be protected but it was ruled to not be). It does not contain an instance of the same character entering battle twice in one turn though.

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Re: some older questions
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2017, 12:27:35 PM »
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I haven't watched that video, but I'll see if I can check it out later.

The video just has Grapes being ruled to create a new phase (AUTO attacked the first battle, Brian attacked with Gideon in the second battle thinking it would still be protected but it was ruled to not be). It does not contain an instance of the same character entering battle twice in one turn though.
I was referring to that to prove grapes created a new battle phase.

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Re: some older questions
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2017, 11:23:14 AM »
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Ah, yes Grapes definitely creates a new battle phase, but as kevinthedude pointed out, a unique character can only enter battle once per turn.
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Re: some older questions
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2017, 12:12:06 PM »
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Ah, yes Grapes definitely creates a new battle phase, but as kevinthedude pointed out, a unique character can only enter battle once per turn.

Unless that character is cascade negated out of battle ;)
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Re: some older questions
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2017, 01:06:52 PM »
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Ah, yes Grapes definitely creates a new battle phase, but as kevinthedude pointed out, a unique character can only enter battle once per turn.

Unless that character is cascade negated out of battle ;)

I almost added that caveat, but I thought "Nah, let's keep that can of worms in the other thread..."  ::)
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Re: some older questions
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2017, 01:22:33 PM »
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Ah, yes Grapes definitely creates a new battle phase, but as kevinthedude pointed out, a unique character can only enter battle once per turn.

Unless that character is cascade negated out of battle ;)

Oh no, we're NOT doing THAT here! ;D
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« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2017, 01:25:39 PM »
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Ah, yes Grapes definitely creates a new battle phase, but as kevinthedude pointed out, a unique character can only enter battle once per turn.

Unless that character is cascade negated out of battle ;)

Oh no, we're NOT doing THAT here! ;D

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Re: some older questions
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2017, 02:23:07 PM »
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Ah, yes Grapes definitely creates a new battle phase, but as kevinthedude pointed out, a unique character can only enter battle once per turn.

Unless that character is cascade negated out of battle ;)

Oh no, we're NOT doing THAT here! ;D

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The conversation may continue now :)
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Re: some older questions
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2017, 02:24:51 PM »
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Ah, yes Grapes definitely creates a new battle phase, but as kevinthedude pointed out, a unique character can only enter battle once per turn.

Unless that character is cascade negated out of battle ;)

Oh no, we're NOT doing THAT here! ;D

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The conversation may continue now :)
Not if my "little friend" here has anything to say about it! He will devour your worms! :police:


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Re: some older questions
« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2017, 02:38:16 PM »
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