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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Official Rules & Errata => Ruling Questions => Topic started by: browarod on June 19, 2015, 04:36:39 PM
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Initially I was curious if he could band to both the male and female versions of Christian Soldier at the same time, but then I remembered that his other targets are also generic. Is he able to band to multiple copies of each card or can he only band to 1 of each title?
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My assumption is that he can only band to one of each, since each of the targets is singular. If he could band to all of them he's have to say "May band to any Saint of Virtues, any Christian Soldiers and/or any Paladins" or something like that.
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I would say it depends on the deck and which version of the card you're wanting to band. Saint of virtue warriors doesn't have a special ability, but the Kings version does. I think Paladin also has a special ability on it as well. So, you wouldn't have multiple copies of those cards in a standard 56 card deck anyways. The only one that would probably have multiple versions of would be Christian soldier, but it begs the question, why carry more than one version for this one tactic?
Jesusman
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He can only band to one at a time. If it said "all" it would be all, but each of these indicates a singular count of the referenced characters, no matter how many are in play (whichever versions you use or in T2).
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My assumption is that he can only band to one of each, since each of the targets is singular. If he could band to all of them he's have to say "May band to any Saint of Virtues, any Christian Soldiers and/or any Paladins" or something like that.
That's kinda what I was thinking, but I could also see a case for allowing all generic copies, so I figured it was worth checking.
He can only band to one at a time. If it said "all" it would be all, but each of these indicates a singular count of the referenced characters, no matter how many are in play (whichever versions you use or in T2).
Well, I would counter that with the possible interpretation that "may band to 'Saint of Virtue'" could be shorthand for "may band to the card title 'Saint of Virtue'" which could have multiple copies. If that's not how Redemption interprets it that's fine, just thought I'd offer the alternative. :P
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Well, I would counter that with the possible interpretation that "may band to 'Saint of Virtue'" could be shorthand for "may band to the card title 'Saint of Virtue'" which could have multiple copies.
It does say that, but it doesn't say you get to band to more than one copy, so you can't.
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Well, I would counter that with the possible interpretation that "may band to 'Saint of Virtue'" could be shorthand for "may band to the card title 'Saint of Virtue'" which could have multiple copies. If that's not how Redemption interprets it that's fine, just thought I'd offer the alternative. :P
Idolaters says, "Capture Aaron." Does that mean if there is more than one Aaron in play that they all would be captured?
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Idolaters says, "Capture Aaron." Does that mean if there is more than one Aaron in play that they all would be captured?
Under a certain interpretation, yes. In Redemption, <card title> is shorthand for "a card with the title <card title>" (because saying "Capture an Aaron" sounds awkward) but it could just as easily have been defined without the "a" qualifier, or with ambiguous quantity. I was merely pointing that out. :P
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Under a certain interpretation, yes. In Redemption, <card title> is shorthand for "a card with the title <card title>" (because saying "Capture an Aaron" sounds awkward) but it could just as easily have been defined without the "a" qualifier, or with ambiguous quantity. I was merely pointing that out. :P
I don't see that option at all, IMO. The assumption would have to be singular, unless there was a qualifier that made it plural. Other Redemption cards use "all" for this qualifier.
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Idolaters says, "Capture Aaron." Does that mean if there is more than one Aaron in play that they all would be captured?
Under a certain interpretation, yes. In Redemption, <card title> is shorthand for "a card with the title <card title>" (because saying "Capture an Aaron" sounds awkward) but it could just as easily have been defined without the "a" qualifier, or with ambiguous quantity. I was merely pointing that out. :P
I don't believe that there is any way to interpret it as targeting multiples when it doesn't have something to indicate that it does. The default in our language is that there is a "one" being referenced here, because it does not say "all" or have a plural or anything else to indicate that it could be referring to "more than one."
Sometimes it really is the simplest thing, and there really isn't a way to complicate this ability ;)
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Sometimes it really is the simplest thing, and there really isn't a way to complicate this ability ;)
Having taken numerous English classes in the last decade, I can assure you that our language is never simple. ;)
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There was a point where we put "a" in front of each character name just to make it clearer that it was only one of each character SoG is banding. In the end we decided it would only muddy the waters because there are already so many similar abilities that don't use that type of language.
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There was a point where we put "a" in front of each character name just to make it clearer that it was only one of each character SoG is banding. In the end we decided it would only muddy the waters because there are already so many similar abilities that don't use that type of language.
Oh, heavens. When people use the abbreviation SoG, we won't know whether they are talking about Son of God or SOLDIER of God...
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Oh, heavens. When people use the abbreviation SoG, we won't know whether they are talking about Son of God or SOLDIER of God...
But we will know it's "Something of God".
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Oh, heavens. When people use the abbreviation SoG, we won't know whether they are talking about Son of God or SOLDIER of God...
But we will know it's "Something of God".
Are we going to get a card called "Something of God"? Because that would be weird.
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Oh, heavens. When people use the abbreviation SoG, we won't know whether they are talking about Son of God or SOLDIER of God...
But we will know it's "Something of God".
Are we going to get a card called "Something of God"? Because that would be weird.
I want it.