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I'm in favor, and you just have to say "captured character" = "prisoner" like "cannot be blocked by" = "ignore" and so on.

I really like this idea.

Adds so much more flavor to the game. In favor.

Captured demons??

My apologies,
Mr. Thorn in your Side

Captured hero could be prisoner (hero) or something like that.

I like it.

There are no prisoners in the new set, though.  This would have to be a "full rulebook" edit (which is not difficult).  The starter decks get a "starter rulebook" which won't include capture/prisoners.

Quote from: EmJayBee83 on September 10, 2012, 10:40:00 PM

How would you separate "captured character" from "captured hero" from "captured evil character" from "captured human" from...?

Good Human Prisoner, Evil Prisoner.

The problem is that there is no such thing as a "Good" or an "Evil" prisoner--prisoners are neutral.  You are right back to the same "road apples are not apples" problem that Pol's suggestion was meant to ameliorate--you have merely shifted the troublesome words from "hero/evil character" to "good/evil."  The same thing would also hold for ChristianSoldier's "prisoner (hero)."

I guess I would like to hear Pol's suggestion.

A way to fix the Captured Demons issue is to say that all non-human prisoners cannot be redeemed which would mean captured angels can't be redeemed which would be a small price to pay to keep it consitent.

I can see both sides. We are either stuck with having "good" and "evil" describe cards that are "neutral", or we have the word "character(s)" describe cards that are not characters.

At this point, while I liked the idea initially (especially since it hearkened back to the "Take a Hero/EC prisoner" language, which I've always kind of like as a descriptor) I personally don't see enough advantage with MJB's point being valid to have to change the wording of all future cards that mention them, and have to give Play As to that effect to all current cards. 

You are not right back to anything. Heroes are Good and Evil Characters are evil, so while it wouldn't fix the good/evil problem, it would indeed fix a problem without creating another.

Captured human is no problem, that's just human prisoner. The only time it's still difficult is good prisoner and evil prisoner, which is still a bit misnamed, but that's way easier a distinction to explain than no longer being characters.

OK.* (The point about human prisoner is more than just "OK" since captured characters currently retain their degree of human-ness.) I guess I didn't really think of this as two separate problems, because it tends to come up once for each player. Once you go through the explanation that a "captured hero" is not a "hero"--for example--everyone understands that means he is neither a "character" nor "good." Since we will still have to run through the same explanation in these cases, is limiting the need for such explanations to just cards that specifically mention an alignment worth having to explain that "captured hero/captured EC" is old-timey wording on existing cards (much like the dreaded "interrupt, prevent and negate")? It may well be.

*I was hoping (and pretty much expecting) that you had a wicked-clever solution to all of this, which is why I wanted to hear your suggestion.

Anyway, I don't see where there really is an issue. I see places in the Bible where there are Good and Bad prisoners...

The problem is you don't see places in the Bible where you get to draw cards (or whatever) based on the number of Evil brigades your opponent has in play. Or turning the argument around--the Bible is also fairly clear that Paul is still a hero (both a character and able to redeem sinners) even when he was spending a goodly amount of time in prison.