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If my opponent plays Sinning Hand when my hand is protected does that mean I cannot negate it? Sinning Hand says that "Any player may discard half his hand to negate this."

I disagree, if the protect is from "discard abilities," I would rule that Sinning Hand is not a "discard ability." The SA itself does not force the discard; the discard is an out-of-sequence event from a game standpoint. I would allow it, but then again I'm not one of the best judges in Redemptionland.

The Hobbit is correct as far as I know. It's the same reasoning that FW can't be discarded by Job Overcomes. Even though your opponent is choosing what to discard, your ability is causing it and therefore FW is protected. Same goes for Four Drachma Coin and others' protection against TEP or SH.

That is what I thought. Thanks guys!    I guess the Elders fall under the "Those who are silent are presumed to consent" clause.   

In all seriousness, though, has anyone looked into possibly adding a feature that the Elders can click on to show they approve of the ruling? It had been mentioned in the past, but I don't know if it is even possible in this system. That way Elders will not need to post "I agree," they can just click on the "Elder Approved" icon. Even better would be to have two icons so we know that it has reached the official "two Elder" seal of approval. 

Interesting side note: The REG states that the discard ability targets cards in play by default. That needs changing, since there are discard abilities that target the hand.

The ones that target the hand specify that they are doing so.  If they did not specify, the discard would default to play.

I would love to see a feature where people could see that Elders confirm a ruling by just clicking something, but I'm not sure if it's possible. What might be possible is, for at least the ruling section, to enable all members to see who up or downvoted a post. I assume it is possible, because moderators are already given that privilige, to help avoid abuse of the +/- system.

As for the other points:

1. Yes, a protected hand cannot be half-discarded to negate Sinning Hand.
2. No, the REG doesn't need to change the Default conditions, it just needs to explain better what they mean. I've probably posted a dozen times in various places what it means, but it still can be confusing. Essentially, the default conditions only apply in cases where the ability does not specify otherwise. They are not hard rules about what can and cannot be done. When the next update to the REG is released, that will be clarified.