Cactus Game Design Message Boards

I just want to clarify if this is right, but if Simon the Zealot shoots my Rome and I use Galba to recur it, is it still Negated or not?

Simon the Zealot
7/4 Red/Purple Hero
Luke 6:13-15, Disciple
Negate and Discard Rome and an NT Idol. First Strike. Protect your Hand and Deck from Opponents while this Hero remains in play.

Rome
Evil Fortress
Romans 1:15
Your Emperors have First Strike and may use NT Enhancements of any evil brigade (except Orange)

Emperor Galba
10/1 Gray Warrior Class Evil Character
Josephus: Wars of the Jews, Chapter 6, Roman Emperor
Each Opponent must Discard a card from Hand. You may Search Deck or Discard Pile for Rome and put it in play.

I think it would be negated until the battle phase is over. But I don't know...

Indeed. Simon's Negate is an ongoing ability and would negate Rome no matter how many times it was discarded and put back on the table during that battle phase.

That would be suicide for your Rome because it would be prevented from activating and thus do nothing for the rest of the game.

Quote from: STAMP on February 12, 2012, 02:19:48 PM

That would be suicide for your Rome because it would be prevented from activating and thus do nothing for the rest of the game.

What precedent do you have for that ruling?

By rule, fortresses are played and activate in the prep phase.  They do not continually activate each turn like artifacts.  If you activate a fortress during the battle phase, it does not re-activate on your next prep phase.  So if you prevent the activation of a fortress put in play, it's SA does nothing until the card is taken out of play and re-played later in the game.  The identifiers still work, of course.

No offense, STAMP, but I would like to hear Elder confirmation that Rome would not activate on the owner's next turn. You may indeed be right, but that's not what I would have ruled.

None taken.     EVERY statement I make generally needs to be run by an Elder first.  It's a given. 

Quote from: STAMP on February 12, 2012, 02:44:34 PM

None taken.     EVERY statement I make generally needs to be run by an Elder first.  It's a given. 

I think overall that you have a better track record of being right than I do. 

That's only with older rulings.  With my diminishing short-term memory, I miss on most of the newer rules. 

Stamp is not correct as written. Fortresses activate upon entering play, regardless of phase. However, he is correct that they only activate once, and can not continually activate each phase. In this situation, you could retrieve Rome, but it's ability would be negated, meaning it would not activate, and only the identifiers would work.

Stamp is not correct as written. Fortresses activate upon entering play, regardless of phase. However, he is correct that they only activate once, and can not continually activate each phase. In this situation, you could retrieve Rome, but it's ability would be negated, meaning it would not activate, and only the identifiers would work.

Even when I'm right I can't be COMPLETELY right.

Thanks for brightening my day. 

Does an SA reactivate if interrupted? For instance, if my opponent plays Image of Jealousy on my Herod's Temple, can I use Passover Hymn in a later turn to reactivate HT?

That is correct. However, if DS were out when a Fortress were played, later negating DS would not activate the fortress since you'd be negating a prevent, not an interrupt.