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Defeat                           

Defeat is caused when a character’s toughness is less than or equal to an opposing character’s strength. A defeat also occurs when a character is stopped from achieving his goal in battle. A Hero(es) is defeated when the Hero(es) in battle are discarded, repelled or otherwise fails to make a successful rescue such as in a stalemate. The Evil Character(s) is defeated when the Evil Character(s) in battle are discarded, ignored or otherwise fails to stop the Hero from making a successful rescue such as in a mutual destruction by numbers.

Unfortunately, there's no definition for "defeats," which is apparently different. This question comes up often, and the answer is still unclear. Logically, if a character becomes "defeat," then the opposing characters "defeated" it, but we've been told many times that CM does not trigger PW, nor does Failed Objective. I would like an answer too.