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beucase weapons follow normal enhancement rules in battle.
Becuase in battle if you shuffled the character the weapon is discarded becaus it follows the rules of other enhancements in battle, but if a set aside is played in battle the weapon should be discarded beucase weapons follow normal enhancement rules in battle.
Quote from: TheHobbit13 on August 23, 2008, 12:31:32 PMBecuase in battle if you shuffled the character the weapon is discarded becaus it follows the rules of other enhancements in battle, but if a set aside is played in battle the weapon should be discarded beucase weapons follow normal enhancement rules in battle.Do you think that a Hero should reset to face value when set-aside, since he resets to face value when shuffled?
QuoteDo you think that a Hero should reset to face value when set-aside, since he resets to face value when shuffled?No.
Do you think that a Hero should reset to face value when set-aside, since he resets to face value when shuffled?
Quote from: TheHobbit13 on August 23, 2008, 09:46:04 PMQuoteDo you think that a Hero should reset to face value when set-aside, since he resets to face value when shuffled?No.So why does it make sense to you that a Hero would keep gained abilities when set-aside but lose them when shuffled, but to keep a weapon when set-aside but lose it when shuffled is "silly" and "needs fixed"?
That isn't what we are talking about I was reffering to your post about weapon class enhancements behaving like regular enhancements in battle.
I really don't want my weapon to be discarded when it is shuffled it doesn't make sense with all the other rules for weapons.
And I don't like the idea of making rules that don't benifit or hurt the game that is basically making rules for the sake of making rules.
Every time a person makes a rule they have to be able to explain it. This seems to be "it is shuffled becuase that's the rule" that isn't enough for me I want the game of redemption to go above and beyond that point I want people to fully understand why it does that.
And why make ANB more powerful then it is? HT was a mistake to make IMO when you have a card like ANB just begging to be played on a prophets.
When a character is sent from battle to set aside what happens to the enhancements in battle?
Quote from: TheHobbit13 on August 24, 2008, 10:05:35 PMWhen a character is sent from battle to set aside what happens to the enhancements in battle?When a character with gained abilities is sent from battle to set aside, what happens to the gained abilities?
They are set aside? A weapon isn't a gained ability though.
Quote from: TheHobbit13 on August 25, 2008, 10:05:14 AMThey are set aside? A weapon isn't a gained ability though.Right but I explained to you earlier that they share some commonalities. In particular, you said it made sense that a character would hold on to an ability that he gained if set aside, but that he should lose it if shuffled. So why shouldn't a character hold on to a weapon that he "gained", or more accurately, is retaining, if set aside, and then lose it when shuffled?
Imo he should but the weapon should shuffle in because it was gained as you see and the gained ability resets.
Why does there need to be a rule that when a character is shuffled the weapon he is holding is discarded.
I thought you do shuffle it in with the set aside character.
If I played Reach of desperation then a play a set aside to set aside my character in battle what happens to reach?
Quote from: TheHobbit13 on August 25, 2008, 03:02:47 PMI thought you do shuffle it in with the set aside character.So if a gathered Captain gets shuffled, you actually fish Gathering out of your discard pile and put it back in your draw pile? Really?QuoteIf I played Reach of desperation then a play a set aside to set aside my character in battle what happens to reach?Do you have any other characters in battle to move the card to?
I am basically reversing the argument. If the weapon is not discarded when it is set aside why is it discarded when the character is shuffled?
The rules should make sense with each other.
So weapons are treated as Gained abilities in all situations??
Lost Souls can't hold weapons, it's not part of their card type.
Captured characters also are not characters. Being in Raider's Camp doesn't change the answer, because still, only characters can hold weapons.