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What exactly constitutes a "type"? Does it mean of the same identifier (Pharisee or Sadducee)?

Doctrine Like Leaven (RA)
Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Black/Gray • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Set aside a Pharisee or Sadducee and decrease it 0/1 per turn. Each upkeep phase, search your discard pile for a generic Evil Character of the type set aside. Place it in your territory.

Alright, that's what I thought. Thanks! ^_^

Does it have to have all of the same identifiers, or would the "human" identifier qualify? That would allow for easy recursion of any and all generic human EC's (such as Creeping Deceiver). If it has to be all the same identifiers, you'd need to set aside a generic Phar/Sad for this card to do anything.

I disagree. The first sentence says "a" Pharisee or Sadducee, so it does not have to be generic. However, the second sentence specifies the same type (Pharisee or Sadducee) has to be generic.

There really is no need for nitpicking. The card is plenty clear, since there are no non-human Pharisees or Sadducees.

That's clearly how it was intended. But since "type" isn't defined, and it appears to be referring to identifiers, the question of whether it means all or some applies.

Appearances can be deceiving.  ProfAlstad said that, in this case, it's referring to Phar/Sadd.

Ok. Prof Alstad is an elder, yes, but unless Elders are now infallible, Pol is welcome to present his side and try to get the rule changed/more defined.

Quote from: SomeKittens on June 25, 2011, 12:07:32 AM

Appearances can be deceiving.  ProfAlstad said that, in this case, it's referring to Phar/Sadd.

Ok. Prof Alstad is an elder, yes, but unless Elders are now infallible, Pol is welcome to present his side and try to get the rule changed/more defined.

He's absolutely welcome to.  I just pointed out what an Elder said.

Alex and Polarius are correct. In fact, I think we should have the playtesters of this card hung, drawn and quartered for using the word "type" in a special ability. Their heads should then be mounted on a stick and placed at the entrance to every Regional tournament as an example to any would-be future playtesters.

Rob Anderson should be tarred and feathered, then paraded around each Regional tournament so we can all mock him for allowing a card with "type" in the SA to even get to print.

Every copy of Doctrine Like Leaven should be marked with a scarlet letter so we can scold anyone who is foolish enough to use a card with the word "type" in the SA in an actual game. Then, at next year's Nationals, we should burn every copy of the card at the stake.