Author Topic: Set aside question (Read 3200 times)

The M · « **on:** October 03, 2010, 09:19:20 PM »

Can I play set-aside enhancements concurrently?
Say I set aside my Abiathar with Prayer and Fasting, Built on the Rock, and Training in Righteousness?
Can my 10/9 Uber-protected multi-brigade wielding hero become real?

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #1 on:** October 03, 2010, 09:31:48 PM »

no- once the first set aside enhancement activates and sets the hero aside he is no longer in play for the next set aside to target him.

The M · « **Reply #2 on:** October 03, 2010, 09:36:59 PM »

what if they are instantaneously played?

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #3 on:** October 03, 2010, 09:44:55 PM »

Quote from: RTSmaniac on October 03, 2010, 09:31:48 PM

no- once the first set aside enhancement activates and sets the hero aside he is no longer in play for the next set aside to target him.

browarod · « **Reply #4 on:** October 03, 2010, 11:43:33 PM »

To be more precise, cards can only be played simultaneously if one of them says they can. The only card that does this currently (and probably only ever) is the New Jerusalem dominant.

Master_Chi · « **Reply #5 on:** October 04, 2010, 10:08:45 AM »

Quote from: browarod on October 03, 2010, 11:43:33 PM

To be more precise, cards can only be played simultaneously if one of them says they can. The only card that does this currently (and probably only ever) is the New Jerusalem dominant.

Did they ever get that whole SOG + NJ and Judas' Plot mess sorted out?

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #6 on:** October 04, 2010, 10:11:38 AM »

Quote from: browarod on October 03, 2010, 11:43:33 PM

To be more precise, cards can only be played simultaneously if one of them says they can. The only card that does this currently (and probably only ever) is the New Jerusalem dominant.

Quote from: Professoralstad

Simultaneous has been defined in Redemption terms as "within a few milliseconds" (or maybe up to half a second on RTS)

EDIT: Removed the link to the thread he said that on, otherwise you'd read it and realize he disagreed with me.

The M · « **Reply #7 on:** October 04, 2010, 06:30:20 PM »

so WHAT if they were played simultaneously?

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #8 on:** October 04, 2010, 06:37:38 PM »

for example- if i place setaside enhancements on heros in territory with placer abilities (aka tithe ect) and play a banding card like Battle Cry. What happens?

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #9 on:** October 04, 2010, 07:08:25 PM »

Redemption explodes.

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #10 on:** October 04, 2010, 07:28:35 PM »

multiple triggers and owner gets to choose order

The M · « **Reply #11 on:** October 04, 2010, 07:53:42 PM »

but would I be able to choose all of them or only one of the triggers?

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #12 on:** October 04, 2010, 08:06:33 PM »

u get to choose what order they activate

Master_Chi · « **Reply #13 on:** October 05, 2010, 09:33:38 AM »

Quote from: Master_Chi on October 04, 2010, 10:08:45 AM

Did they ever get that whole SOG + NJ and Judas' Plot mess sorted out?

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #14 on:** October 05, 2010, 10:19:09 AM »

They are still deciding on instead abilities and i would say it is up to the tournament host on the ruling. If i were to rule on the play i would say SOG/NJ happen at the same time (simultaniously) and the owner of Judas Plot would choose which one would go to the bottom.

Master_Chi · « **Reply #15 on:** October 05, 2010, 10:50:06 AM »

Quote from: RTSmaniac on October 05, 2010, 10:19:09 AM

They are still deciding on instead abilities and i would say it is up to the tournament host on the ruling. If i were to rule on the play i would say SOG/NJ happen at the same time (simultaniously) and the owner of Judas Plot would choose which one would go to the bottom.

IMO, I would instead SOG, but it's all in the eye of the (be)holder.

browarod · « **Reply #16 on:** October 05, 2010, 05:59:50 PM »

Quote from: Master_Chi on October 05, 2010, 10:50:06 AM

IMO, I would instead SOG, but it's all in the eye of the (be)holder.

Why on earth would you do that?

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #17 on:** October 05, 2010, 06:02:14 PM »

Quote from: browarod on October 05, 2010, 05:59:50 PM

Quote from: Master_Chi on October 05, 2010, 10:50:06 AM
IMO, I would instead SOG, but it's all in the eye of the (be)holder.
Why on earth would you do that?

because then NJ fizzles.

browarod · « **Reply #18 on:** October 05, 2010, 06:07:13 PM »

Quote from: Ring Wraith on October 05, 2010, 06:02:14 PM

Quote from: browarod on October 05, 2010, 05:59:50 PM
Quote from: Master_Chi on October 05, 2010, 10:50:06 AM
IMO, I would instead SOG, but it's all in the eye of the (be)holder.
Why on earth would you do that?
because then NJ fizzles.

It doesn't currently. As far as I know, that's part of what they're discussing, but currently it doesn't I don't think.

Master_Chi · « **Reply #19 on:** October 05, 2010, 06:11:27 PM »

I meant that's what I want to happen if I were to play against someone with JP. If I were using JP, I would most definitely want to instead NJ.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #20 on:** October 05, 2010, 06:12:37 PM »

Quote from: browarod on October 05, 2010, 06:07:13 PM

Quote from: Ring Wraith on October 05, 2010, 06:02:14 PM
Quote from: browarod on October 05, 2010, 05:59:50 PM
Quote from: Master_Chi on October 05, 2010, 10:50:06 AM
IMO, I would instead SOG, but it's all in the eye of the (be)holder.
Why on earth would you do that?
because then NJ fizzles.
It doesn't currently. As far as I know, that's part of what they're discussing, but currently it doesn't I don't think.

I figured as much, but it should.

browarod · « **Reply #21 on:** October 05, 2010, 06:15:07 PM »

Quote from: Master_Chi on October 05, 2010, 06:11:27 PM

If I were using JP, I would most definitely want to instead NJ.

^This. Going strictly off the wording of NJ, there is no reason for it to fizzle if SoG is insteaded by JP, so the easiest solution (to me) would just be to allow JP's holder to be able to choose which to instead and then they can choose NJ.

Master_Chi · « **Reply #22 on:** October 05, 2010, 06:23:39 PM »

Quote from: browarod on October 05, 2010, 06:15:07 PM

Quote from: Master_Chi on October 05, 2010, 06:11:27 PM
If I were using JP, I would most definitely want to instead NJ.
^This. Going strictly off the wording of NJ, there is no reason for it to fizzle if SoG is insteaded by JP, so the easiest solution (to me) would just be to allow JP's holder to be able to choose which to instead and then they can choose NJ.

Agreed. The most effective use for JP would be to allow SOG but then instead NJ so NJ goes back without making a successful rescue and is only good for Confusion of Mind fodder.

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #23 on:** October 05, 2010, 10:27:22 PM »

I am Holy.

You could discard the NJ left in your deck for a purpose. or even First Fruits.

Master_Chi · « **Reply #24 on:** October 06, 2010, 09:05:04 AM »

Quote from: RTSmaniac on October 05, 2010, 10:27:22 PM

I am Holy.

How would that help?

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