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Set aside enhancements played outside of battle cannot target cards controlled by an opponent (unless the enhancement is a territory class enhancement).
If no duration is specified on the set-aside card, the controller of the card that is set aside may choose when to bring it [back].
Under most circumstances, setting aside your opponents' characters with a set-aside that was intended to be beneficial won't do you any good. However, this does mean you could play a Witnesses to Creation in battle to take Angel under the Oak out of the picture for seven turns, or Tower in battle to lock up a problem EC for six to name a couple.
Here's what you're looking for:QuoteSet aside enhancements played outside of battle cannot target cards controlled by an opponent (unless the enhancement is a territory class enhancement). Other than that stipulation you can target any legitimate target with any set-aside. However, bear in mind:Quote If no duration is specified on the set-aside card, the controller of the card that is set aside may choose when to bring it [back]. Under most circumstances, setting aside your opponents' characters with a set-aside that was intended to be beneficial won't do you any good. However, this does mean you could play a Witnesses to Creation in battle to take Angel under the Oak out of the picture for seven turns, or Tower in battle to lock up a problem EC for six to name a couple.
It was ruled that I could not set aside my opponents heros in battle with a good set aside card.
You cannot play a Set-Aside Enhancement on an Opponent's character. There are a couple exceptions though, like with Nebuchadnezzar's Pride or Pretension. But it has to say that it can Set-Aside all Characters (or an Opponent's Character).
Quote from: megamanlan on March 14, 2017, 11:37:42 AMYou cannot play a Set-Aside Enhancement on an Opponent's character. There are a couple exceptions though, like with Nebuchadnezzar's Pride or Pretension. But it has to say that it can Set-Aside all Characters (or an Opponent's Character).Can you show me where this is in the REG entry of "Set Aside"? I think the only "special" rule with set-aside cards is that if they are played outside of battle, you can't target cards controlled by your opponent (unless the card is TC). But anything played in battle can be carried out exactly as the card says. Just remember that if no duration is specified that the card's controller can bring it back during any prep phase.
So could Chemosh set aside one opponents EC when played during battle? And does this part of its ability count as duration: "Evil character decreases 0/1 each turn until Evil character is discarded."
My understanding of Set-Aside is that it can NEVER set-aside your Opponent's cards unless the card says it can. Otherwise, Set-Aside's default to your characters. The rules may have changed though, but that is why you don't see people playing Set-Aside's in battle, except for battle-winners. (Besides that most Set-Asides won't affect the battle.)
Quote from: Reth on March 14, 2017, 05:06:49 PMSo could Chemosh set aside one opponents EC when played during battle? And does this part of its ability count as duration: "Evil character decreases 0/1 each turn until Evil character is discarded."That card most likely does not have a duration. Duration is how long the card defines when characters come back. (Like Nebu's Pride saying Set-Aside for 4 turns, or Provisions being for 2 turns.)
Quote from: megamanlan on March 15, 2017, 10:25:35 AMMy understanding of Set-Aside is that it can NEVER set-aside your Opponent's cards unless the card says it can. Otherwise, Set-Aside's default to your characters. The rules may have changed though, but that is why you don't see people playing Set-Aside's in battle, except for battle-winners. (Besides that most Set-Asides won't affect the battle.)If that is your understanding, then you need to read the REG entry, because it contradicts your understanding.And many set-asides could affect the battle if played in battle. (Think of all the set asides from the Unlimited and Prophets expansions.) They never get used because they just aren't as good as using other cards.Quote from: megamanlan on March 15, 2017, 10:25:35 AMQuote from: Reth on March 14, 2017, 05:06:49 PMSo could Chemosh set aside one opponents EC when played during battle? And does this part of its ability count as duration: "Evil character decreases 0/1 each turn until Evil character is discarded."That card most likely does not have a duration. Duration is how long the card defines when characters come back. (Like Nebu's Pride saying Set-Aside for 4 turns, or Provisions being for 2 turns.)See Samaritan Water Jar. It doesn't specify a certain number of turns, but it has a duration.The question is, does the ability "Set Evil Character aside. Evil Character decreases 0/1 each turn until discarded." imply a duration of "until Evil Character is discarded"? I'm thinking it would, but an Elder would be needed to confirm.
I believe Warriors is when they started to introduce Duration onto Set-Aside cards (But I haven't looked at all of them in a long time so it might be in AW or Kings)
For Samaritarian Water Jar - at least it defines an end condition (but no duration): So can owner return his cards before end condition is fulfilled cause it is no real duration?
Quote I believe Warriors is when they started to introduce Duration onto Set-Aside cards (But I haven't looked at all of them in a long time so it might be in AW or Kings)Durations for set asides have been around since Limited (Chastisement of the Lord).
