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Based on previous questions i had i was told that for a card to be considered the same, the have to have the same name, the same art and the same scripture and special ability.
 
so my question is that Seraphim (5/4...Isaiah 6:2.....may band to a blue brigade) and seraph with a libe caol (6/6.....Isaiah 6:6-7 discard evil card in territory to search deck or discard for an Isaiah 6 enhancement...may band to Isaiah) don't have three of the four characteristics but they have the same art.

If i wanted to have them in the same deck. is it possible?

What Redoubter said, with one small caveat.  The deck limits mentioned above assume a deck with fewer than 100 cards. So the last paragraph, would be...

You can have one copy of  Seraph (choose one), Seraphim, and Seraph with a Live Coal for every fifty cards in a deck. Of these Seraph and Seraph with a Live Coal are unique and Seraphim is generic, so when you are playing you may have all copies of Serpahim and one copy each of Seraph and Seraph with a Live Coal in play and/or set aside at the same time.

Two things:

I hope it is OK if I add a few more things (since if anyone would know the answers I am guessing it would be Redoubter).

First, I did not specify the part about deck-building because that is another matter entirely, and what I said was correct.  That you can have multiple copies of a card if you have a sufficiently-large deck does not really come into play here, because it applies equally to all cards with SA, and in this case we only have 1 unique character (so there are no other versions to worry about).

I did not disagree that what you said is correct; I was simply pointing out that was incomplete (and incomplete in a way a new player possibly might not be aware of).

Second, Seraph is not unique, it is generic.  You can have any number of copies in play at a time.

I just corrected the Wiki (where I originally pulled this info from) on this.

Third, do we know that Seraphim and Seraph are still supposed to be treated as identical characters for deck building purposes? I know that this was ruled that way when Seraph first came out, but since then we have a new REG, and it makes the fairly definitive statement...

Character cards with the same card title and the same art or with the same title and the same brigade are considered duplicates for deck building purposes.

We also have a new rule book that says...

Same Title + Same Art = Same Card.

and

Same Title + Same Brigade = Same Card (except generic characters with different art).

...and Seraph and Seraphim are naively *not* the same card title. (I also note that this answers the most generic form of birukfm's question.)

Last question, do we have an official list anywhere of which cards with different titles are supposed to be the same character? Some (like Esau  and Esau, the Hunter) are fairly obvious, but Whore of Babylon and Babylon the Great, for example, are not.

Thank you. 

Quote from: Redoubter on July 06, 2014, 08:20:32 AM

Seraph and Seraph are the same card for deckbuilding purposes.

Why is this? The rule book states:

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Generic characters with special abilities that have the
same name and card art are limited to a maximum of 1 each
per 50 cards in a deck. If the card art is different, you may
select a maximum of 1 each per 50 cards in a deck from
each variant. For example, you can have one of each of the
black brigade Sadducees (4 Variants) cards in a deck that is
smaller than 100 cards, provided they each have different
card art.

Both Seraph are generic, and since their artwork is different, wouldn't one of each be allowed per 50 cards?

The first link points to Warrior's Seraphim (band to green) and the second points to RoA's Seraph. The card art is the same for those. Of course, since the cards have different titles...

Yes--you can have both Seraphim (band to green) and Seraphim (band to blue) in the same deck.