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Offline Ken4Christ4ever

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Searching for a Lost Soul
« on: October 02, 2009, 03:31:34 PM »
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If you search for a Lost Soul, do you draw a replacement card?

If it's the revealer, hopper, or site-remover, do their effects activate?

I believe the answer is 'no' to both questions, but I wasn't sure. Thanks!
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Re: Searching for a Lost Soul
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2009, 03:36:14 PM »
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First answer is no.

Second answer is yes and no. There is a difference between hopper/revealer and site-remover. Hopper and Revealer only work when drawn whereas the Site-remover works when it is placed in your Land of Bondage so the ability would activate if you search for it.

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Re: Searching for a Lost Soul
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2009, 04:36:53 PM »
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The key difference in the abilities, which answers both questions, is the phrase "when drawn" (or "when you draw") - these phrases require that you draw the card, not search for them. "Draw" is a SA and a game mechanic.
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Re: Searching for a Lost Soul
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2009, 11:54:20 PM »
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Quote from: The Guardian on October 02, 2009, 03:36:14 PM
First answer is no.

Second answer is yes and no. There is a difference between hopper/revealer and site-remover. Hopper and Revealer only work when drawn whereas the Site-remover works when it is placed in your Land of Bondage so the ability would activate if you search for it.



I am with you on the second part.  Their abilities activate depending on how they came into play, but are you sure on the first part?

I thought that as a game rule, everytime you took a LS from your deck you draw a replacement card.  It is possible that this does not kick in when y ou search for a LS but I have always seen it played that you draw a replacement from the top.
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Re: Searching for a Lost Soul
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2009, 12:01:19 AM »
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Most cards that search for a lost soul is an opponent's card.  If they "draw" a lost soul from your deck, then it wouldn't make since for them to "draw" another card.
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Re: Searching for a Lost Soul
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2009, 12:05:22 AM »
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Quote from: Crashfach2002 on October 03, 2009, 12:01:19 AM
Most cards that search for a lost soul is an opponent's card.  If they "draw" a lost soul from your deck, then it wouldn't make since for them to "draw" another card.

I am talking about using search or False peace to search my own draw pile for a LS and then placing it in territory and immediatley drawing a replacement card from my own deck.  I have done that before.  especially searching for the Color guard LS.
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Re: Searching for a Lost Soul
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2009, 12:09:37 AM »
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From the rulebook (page 5):
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Each time you draw a Lost Soul at any time in the game, it is immediately placed in your Land of Bondage and replaced by drawing another card.

From the REG (Search, etc. > Special Conditions):
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A search card can be played to get a Lost Soul from your draw pile.  If this is done, you must put the Lost Soul in your Land of Bondage, then shuffle your deck.

Based on those quotes, I think you don't draw when you search your deck for a LS.
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Re: Searching for a Lost Soul
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2009, 12:10:20 AM »
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Correct, you only get a replacement card if you draw a lost soul.
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Re: Searching for a Lost Soul
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2009, 07:23:26 AM »
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Quote from: crustpope on October 03, 2009, 12:05:22 AM
I am talking about using search or False peace to search my own draw pile for a LS and then placing it in territory and immediatley drawing a replacement card from my own deck.  I have done that before.  especially searching for the Color guard LS.

Again, "draw" and "search" are different abilities. You only draw a replacement when you "draw" the LS. In the Search example, you did not "draw" it (based on game defintions, not dictionary definitions).
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