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Re: The pigs lost soul?
« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2011, 08:13:26 AM »
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.... Nice try MJB - I was told at Natz the get flipped back up after battle when Angry Mob's SA isn't active anymore.
I'm not talking about the fact that the new errata still says nothing about flipping the heroes back up after the SA completes. I am specifically talking about the targeting issue--given that the uniqueness rule takes precedence even over completing an SA.

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Basically what Kevin told me is that Angry Mob has really fancy wording for "Discard a random hero from the territory this card is facing"
That's cool, except Angry Mob was given its errata *after* what Kevin told you. Since the errata was specifically written to correct the issue of targeting, it should override any on-the-spot ruling at an earlier Tournament. Right? For example, if I were given a ruling at the Cali Nats that ANB didn't have to be removed from the game to shuffle in all cards, do I get to keep using that ruling?

If the idea was that Angry Mob is supposed to target all of the selected player's Heroes in territory and set-aside then the errata could have been written that way, but it isn't. Instead it says all Heroes in territory and set-aside, which is a different thing. On the broader topic, if Angry Mob's SA is just fancy wording for "Discard a random hero from selected player's territory and set-aside" why doesn't the errata just say that?
« Last Edit: April 04, 2011, 08:31:47 AM by EmJayBee83 »

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Re: The pigs lost soul?
« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2011, 08:42:26 AM »
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Just to clarify:
For Angry Mob, would everyone's hero's get flipped upside down or just the one's in play controlled by the player it's facing? And do they stay flipped until after the battle?
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Re: The pigs lost soul?
« Reply #27 on: April 04, 2011, 10:03:57 AM »
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"In territory" has been ruled to be singular in Redemption (as opposed to "in a territory") as per the Reheboam rule (on the original Reheboam, the Heroes have to come from the same territory).
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Re: The pigs lost soul?
« Reply #28 on: April 04, 2011, 11:20:27 AM »
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"In territory" has been ruled to be singular in Redemption (as opposed to "in a territory") as per the Reheboam rule (on the original Reheboam, the Heroes have to come from the same territory).
I didn't know this was a general rule.  I thought Rehoboam was covered by a specific Play As that made the territory singular.

So following the Rehoboam pattern you are saying that the errata should be read to say... "Targeted player turns all Heroes in a territory and set-aside upside down and then mixes them up." Do I have that correct?


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Re: The pigs lost soul?
« Reply #29 on: April 06, 2011, 03:30:17 PM »
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Since it's talking about a specific player, it's safe to assume the ambiguous English should be interpreted (in his) not (in a).
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