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Saul/Paul not a priest?!?!
« on: August 25, 2009, 11:12:30 PM »
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 I was reading another topic and I saw someone say Saul?Paul is not a priest.  Isn't Saul/Paul a priest? He used to be a sadducee. All that happened is that he got converted, it doesn't change his status. 
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Re: Saul/Paul not a priest?!?!
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2009, 11:13:49 PM »
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He is definitely not a priest.  Paul is a prophet though.  Maybe that is what you were thinking?

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Re: Saul/Paul not a priest?!?!
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2009, 11:14:54 PM »
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I know he is a prophet but why isn't he a priest?  Are Pharisses (sc) not considered priests?
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Re: Saul/Paul not a priest?!?!
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2009, 11:22:50 PM »
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Pharisees and Sadducees are not on the the list of Priests in the REG, so it seems they're not.

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Re: Saul/Paul not a priest?!?!
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2009, 11:25:37 PM »
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That makes no sense?!?!  Just because they were evil doesn't mean they weren't priests! They were the false priests of the bible.  I think that needs to be changed, they still did all the offerings and were considered priests in their day.
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Re: Saul/Paul not a priest?!?!
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2009, 11:31:15 PM »
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That makes no sense?!?!  Just because they were evil doesn't mean they weren't priests! They were the false priests of the bible.  I think that needs to be changed, they still did all the offerings and were considered priests in their day.
There are evil priests in Redemption, too, just not the generic Pharisees and Sadducees. Have a look:

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(Evil): Abihu, Amaziah, the Ungodly Priest, False Priests, High Priest Ananias, High Priest Annas, High Priest Caiaphas, Hophni, son of Eli, Nadab, Pagan Priest, Pashhur the Priest, Philistine Priests, Phinehas, son of Eli, Potiphera, Priest of On, Unfaithful Priests, and Urijah the High Priest

The high priest Pharisees and Sadducees are evil priests, but the generic ones are not.

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Re: Saul/Paul not a priest?!?!
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2009, 12:05:48 AM »
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The Pharisees and Sadducees were two sects of ancient Judaism. Some served as priests, but the priesthood was determined by bloodline so they were not ALL priests.

It's like not all christians are Pastors.

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Re: Saul/Paul not a priest?!?!
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2009, 08:37:54 AM »
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It's like not all christians are Pastors.
Although the vast majority are.
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Re: Saul/Paul not a priest?!?!
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2009, 08:43:49 AM »
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It's like not all christians are Pastors.
Although the vast majority are.

What?

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Re: Saul/Paul not a priest?!?!
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2009, 09:39:33 AM »
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It's like not all christians are Pastors.
Although the vast majority are.
Each church has one maybe two pastors (not counting youth pastors or anything like that). Each congregation is usually at least a two digit number and a lot are upwards of 50 somethimes 100 people. I was say a large minority of Christians are pastors. And that makes it sound like its a bad thing, its not.  :)
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Re: Saul/Paul not a priest?!?!
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2009, 09:49:41 AM »
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For the most part, Priests in Redemption include Melchizedek and the Aaronic line of Levitical priests.  Needless to say, that doesn't apply from the time of Christ onward, but the point is that not all Pharisees/Sadducees were of the Aaronic priesthood.
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Re: Saul/Paul not a priest?!?!
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2009, 09:51:31 AM »
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Paul was a Pharisee, not a Sadducee.
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Re: Saul/Paul not a priest?!?!
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2009, 10:09:47 AM »
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Fixed  ::)

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Re: Saul/Paul not a priest?!?!
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2009, 10:14:53 AM »
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It's like not all christians are Pastors.
Although the vast majority are.
Each church has one maybe two pastors (not counting youth pastors or anything like that). Each congregation is usually at least a two digit number and a lot are upwards of 50 somethimes 100 people. I was say a large minority of Christians are pastors. And that makes it sound like its a bad thing, its not.  :)
Don't I have a right to say something riddiculus every once in a while?! Sheesh...::)
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Re: Saul/Paul not a priest?!?!
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2009, 12:33:45 PM »
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For the most part, Priests in Redemption include Melchizedek and the Aaronic line of Levitical priests.  Needless to say, that doesn't apply from the time of Christ onward, but the point is that not all Pharisees/Sadducees were of the Aaronic priesthood.
That doesn't mean they weren't priests, I understand how they temple guards and Alexander are not priests but They still were considered priests in their day.  Just because they weren't from the line of Aaron doesn't mean they were not priests.  The Philistine Priests did not descend from the line of Aaron and they are still considered priests.  They were just priests of a different religion.  The Pharisees and Sadducces had their own concept of God, so they kinda have a different religion. So they are priests in their own way.  
P.S. So Saul Paul is a priest because wasn't he a high priest?
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Re: Saul/Paul not a priest?!?!
« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2009, 12:40:24 PM »
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Paul/Saul was not a high priest, in fact he was not even a priest.  Pharisees were the religious teachers of the day but that does not make them priests, although a few were.  It would be like Sunday School teachers.  Pastors can teach sunday school, but that does not mean all sunday school teachers are pastors.  Paul/Saul was of the line of Benjamin I believe so that automatically rules out his lineage and I think he himself says he was not a priest some where in his letters but please don't quote me on that as I am sick right now and not completely sure that part of my memory is correct.
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Re: Saul/Paul not a priest?!?!
« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2009, 12:44:22 PM »
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So he is classified as a teacher of the Law?
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Re: Saul/Paul not a priest?!?!
« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2009, 12:45:01 PM »
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I would say yes, but there isn't a "teacher" classification in Redemption.

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Re: Saul/Paul not a priest?!?!
« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2009, 12:47:42 PM »
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Well that should be a class in the next set :)
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Re: Saul/Paul not a priest?!?!
« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2009, 01:16:14 PM »
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I think "teacher" would be too broad of an identifier (even worse than "musician" ;) )

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Re: Saul/Paul not a priest?!?!
« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2009, 04:11:49 PM »
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There would have to be a Math Teacher card, with the identifier [Your].

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Re: Saul/Paul not a priest?!?!
« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2009, 04:16:44 PM »
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There would have to be a Math Teacher card, with the identifier [Your].
First Day of School
Evil Enhancement * Brigade: Multi * Special Ability: Search deck, discard pile, and cards removed from play for all Teacher cards and band them into battle. Cannot be negated unless proof is supplied that opponent is 24 or older.

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Re: Saul/Paul not a priest?!?!
« Reply #22 on: August 26, 2009, 04:20:40 PM »
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There would have to be a Math Teacher card, with the identifier [Your].
First Day of School
Evil Enhancement * Brigade: Multi * Special Ability: Search deck, discard pile, and cards removed from play for all Teacher cards and band them into battle. Cannot be negated unless proof is supplied that opponent is 24 or older.

Nononono, it'd have to be:

First Day of School
Evil Enhancement * Brigade: Multi * Special Ability: Search deck, discard pile, and cards removed from play for all Teacher cards and band them into battle. Cannot be negated unless holder turns in scratchpaper at the end of class showing all math they have done in the game. If all math has been done in holders head or on a calculator, this enhancement gets a grade of 0.

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Re: Saul/Paul not a priest?!?!
« Reply #23 on: August 26, 2009, 04:21:50 PM »
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There would have to be a Math Teacher card, with the identifier [Your].
First Day of School
Evil Enhancement * Brigade: Multi * Special Ability: Search deck, discard pile, and cards removed from play for all Teacher cards and band them into battle. Cannot be negated unless proof is supplied that opponent is 24 or older.

Nononono, it'd have to be:

First Day of School
Evil Enhancement * Brigade: Multi * Special Ability: Search deck, discard pile, and cards removed from play for all Teacher cards and band them into battle. Cannot be negated unless holder turns in scratchpaper at the end of class showing all math they have done in the game. If all math has been done in holders head or on a calculator, this enhancement gets a grade of F.

Fixed +

There would have to be a Math Teacher card, with the identifier [Your].

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Re: Saul/Paul not a priest?!?!
« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2009, 04:28:22 PM »
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There would have to be a Math Teacher card, with the identifier [Your].
First Day of School
Evil Enhancement * Brigade: Multi * Special Ability: Search deck, discard pile, and cards removed from play for all Teacher cards and band them into battle. Cannot be negated unless proof is supplied that opponent is 24 or older.

Nononono, it'd have to be:

First Day of School
Evil Enhancement * Brigade: Multi * Special Ability: Search deck, discard pile, and cards removed from play for all Teacher cards and band them into battle. Cannot be negated unless holder turns in scratchpaper at the end of class showing all math they have done in the game. If all math has been done in holders head or on a calculator, this enhancement gets a grade of F.

Math Teacher
Evil Character * Brigade: Multi * Special Ability: Evil special abilities cannot be negated. This ability takes effect when this card enters play. When you block with this character, you can search deck, discard pile, and cards removed from play for First Day of School and play it. * Identifiers: Your, Very Evil, Teacher

 


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