Author Topic: Saint Patrick - a prohphet? (Read 30309 times)

Colin Michael · « **Reply #25 on:** March 10, 2009, 04:38:06 PM »

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St. Nicholas!

When making a rescue attempt with this Hero, give one of your Redeemed Souls to each opponent.

St. Nick could be a searcher or a mini gifts-of-the-magi.

golgotha · « **Reply #26 on:** March 10, 2009, 04:52:02 PM »

I guess what I want to know, is what other "official Texts About their lives" are we using and can these texts define them as a prophet or priest?

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #27 on:** March 10, 2009, 04:53:04 PM »

I think if Abel can be a prophet, so can Patty for sure.

Colin Michael · « **Reply #28 on:** March 10, 2009, 04:59:00 PM »

Quote from: golgotha on March 10, 2009, 04:52:02 PM

I guess what I want to know, is what other "official Texts About their lives" are we using and can these texts define them as a prophet or priest?

He was ordained as a priest. That's undisputed.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #29 on:** March 10, 2009, 05:08:26 PM »

He is referring to cards in general, not just Patty anymore.

Cameron the Conqueror · « **Reply #30 on:** March 10, 2009, 05:33:46 PM »

Quote from: the musicain on March 10, 2009, 05:32:59 PM

ok so.. i guess that would now make st patrick a preist and now we have another N.T. preist $:-\$

You aren't paying attention at all. Who ruled that he is besides you?

Colin Michael · « **Reply #31 on:** March 10, 2009, 05:34:21 PM »

I think I'll make my own Saints set.

Quote from: Cameron the Conqueror on March 10, 2009, 05:33:46 PM

Quote from: the musicain on March 10, 2009, 05:32:59 PM
ok so.. i guess that would now make st patrick a preist and now we have another N.T. preist $:-\$
You aren't paying attention at all. Who ruled that he is besides you?

The fact that he was a priest. Why should we choose to ignore the historical fact that he was ordained a priest?

metalpsalm · « **Reply #32 on:** March 10, 2009, 06:31:42 PM »

Quote from: golgotha on March 10, 2009, 03:39:58 PM

I'm not sure what the criteria is for having a character made in Redemption that occurs outside of the Bible. For example, could we see a Billy Graham card made?

I have it on very good authority that St Patty and the Salvation Army guy are exceptions and that nothing will go much beyond the time of Constantine. Also, I would argue that the Church dispensation is ongoing and that St. Patrick was an Apostle. An Apostle shows the characteristics of all five ministry gifts: Apostle + prophet/pastor/teacher/evangelist. He certainly did. Also, one can prophesy but not hold the five fold ministry office of a Prophet, so let's not get too crazy handing out titles.

Colin Michael · « **Reply #33 on:** March 10, 2009, 06:33:15 PM »

Quote from: metalpsalm on March 10, 2009, 06:31:42 PM

Quote from: golgotha on March 10, 2009, 03:39:58 PM
I'm not sure what the criteria is for having a character made in Redemption that occurs outside of the Bible. For example, could we see a Billy Graham card made?
I have it on very good authority that St Patty and the Salvation Army guy are exceptions and that nothing will go much beyond the time of Constantine. Also, I would argue that the Church dispensation is ongoing and that St. Patrick was an Apostle. An Apostle shows the characteristics of all five ministry gifts: Apostle + prophet/pastor/teacher/evangelist. He certainly did. Also, one can prophesy but not hold the five fold ministry office of a Prophet, so let's not get too crazy handing out titles.

So now we have St. Patrick as a prophet, priest, and an apostle? Nice.

metalpsalm · « **Reply #34 on:** March 10, 2009, 06:37:07 PM »

Quote from: Colin Michael on March 10, 2009, 06:33:15 PM

Quote from: metalpsalm on March 10, 2009, 06:31:42 PM
Quote from: golgotha on March 10, 2009, 03:39:58 PM
I'm not sure what the criteria is for having a character made in Redemption that occurs outside of the Bible. For example, could we see a Billy Graham card made?
I have it on very good authority that St Patty and the Salvation Army guy are exceptions and that nothing will go much beyond the time of Constantine. Also, I would argue that the Church dispensation is ongoing and that St. Patrick was an Apostle. An Apostle shows the characteristics of all five ministry gifts: Apostle + prophet/pastor/teacher/evangelist. He certainly did. Also, one can prophesy but not hold the five fold ministry office of a Prophet, so let's not get too crazy handing out titles.
So now we have St. Patrick as a prophet, priest, and an apostle? Nice.

I call 'em like I see 'em

Colin Michael · « **Reply #35 on:** March 10, 2009, 06:57:20 PM »

This will work great in my prophets deck in combination with Micah.

crustpope · « **Reply #36 on:** March 17, 2009, 04:50:11 PM »

This whole thread brings up a good point...why is Abel a prophet? not that I am omplaining, but we dont really have any set criteria for a prophet other than the identifier line that shows up on everything post priests. I dont know of anywhere where able "propheied" in fact, none of his words are ever recorded in scripture. so why not St. Patty?

Bryon · « **Reply #37 on:** March 17, 2009, 05:03:20 PM »

Abel is a prophet because Jesus said so.

Cameron the Conqueror · « **Reply #38 on:** March 17, 2009, 05:10:40 PM »

Um, he wasn't serious_{...........You nuthead............}

Abel = ~600 BC
Jesus = 1 AD

thestrongangel · « **Reply #39 on:** March 17, 2009, 05:16:31 PM »

XD! It stands for Anno Domini, meaning the Year of our Lord.

After death!!! ha!

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #40 on:** March 17, 2009, 05:17:22 PM »

Quote from: Cameron the Conqueror on March 17, 2009, 05:10:40 PM

Abel = ~600 BC

Uh, do you mean 6000 BC? 600 is like...after the Greeks.

Quote from: the musicain on March 17, 2009, 05:13:51 PM

AD means after death. not this is the times when jesus was alive

*sigh* Musician, AD is from the Latin Anno Domini, meaning "in the year of the lord." Jesus was born around this time.

thestrongangel · « **Reply #41 on:** March 17, 2009, 05:18:36 PM »

so i guess bc is before christ, then all of the sudden he dies??

thestrongangel · « **Reply #42 on:** March 17, 2009, 05:19:59 PM »

he cant die right after he didnt exist.

crustpope · « **Reply #43 on:** March 17, 2009, 05:21:32 PM »

Quote from: Bryon on March 17, 2009, 05:03:20 PM

Abel is a prophet because Jesus said so.

Is this serious? or is this a joke? Did jesus mention Abel as a prophet and I just forgot about it?

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #44 on:** March 17, 2009, 05:23:46 PM »

Quote from: the musicain on March 17, 2009, 05:19:07 PM

duh! thats what hapend isnt it?? or did i just miss somthing?

In the scenario you are defending, there would be 33 years of unaccounted passage of time, since those years would not qualify as "Before Christ" or "After (His) Death."

Quote from: crustpope on March 17, 2009, 05:21:32 PM

Quote from: Bryon on March 17, 2009, 05:03:20 PM
Abel is a prophet because Jesus said so.

Is this serious? or is this a joke? Did jesus mention Abel as a prophet and I just forgot about it?

He might be referring to Matthew 23:34-5, but I'm not sure that is conclusive.

crustpope · « **Reply #45 on:** March 17, 2009, 05:24:19 PM »

Ah, NVM. I did my own research and found it.

Therefore this generation will be held responsible for the blood of all the prophets that has been shed since the beginning of the world, from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah, who was killed between the altar and the sanctuary. Yes, I tell you, this generation will be held responsible for it all.

Luke 11:50-51

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #46 on:** March 17, 2009, 05:25:47 PM »

Quote from: the musicain on March 17, 2009, 05:23:59 PM

BC (befor christ). AD (after death) it makes pefect sence. say 1 BC adam and eve 100 or so AD (the pope comes) it makes sence.

BC dates are in reverse, so 1 BC would be the year before Jesus' birth.

thestrongangel · « **Reply #47 on:** March 17, 2009, 05:25:58 PM »

Quote from: crustpope on March 17, 2009, 05:24:19 PM

Ah, NVM. I did my own research and found it.

Therefore this generation will be held responsible for the blood of all the prophets that has been shed since the beginning of the world, 51from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah, who was killed between the altar and the sanctuary. Yes, I tell you, this generation will be held responsible for it all.

Luke 11:50-51

Nice find

Quote from: the musicain on March 17, 2009, 05:23:59 PM

Quote from: Rrulez4theSA on March 17, 2009, 05:19:59 PM
he cant die right after he didnt exist.

BC (befor christ). AD (after death) it makes pefect sence. say 1 BC adam and eve 100 or so AD (the pope comes) it makes sence.

Musicain......*sigh*

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #48 on:** March 17, 2009, 05:29:50 PM »

Quote from: crustpope on March 17, 2009, 05:24:19 PM

Ah, NVM. I did my own research and found it.

Therefore this generation will be held responsible for the blood of all the prophets that has been shed since the beginning of the world, from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah, who was killed between the altar and the sanctuary. Yes, I tell you, this generation will be held responsible for it all.

Luke 11:50-51

That is interesting, because Matthew's account has more detailed wording that would not indicate Abel as a prophet, but rather as "righteous blood" that was spilt (which they would still be accountable for).

metalpsalm · « **Reply #49 on:** March 17, 2009, 06:31:17 PM »

Quote from: metalpsalm on March 10, 2009, 06:37:07 PM

Quote from: Colin Michael on March 10, 2009, 06:33:15 PM
Quote from: metalpsalm on March 10, 2009, 06:31:42 PM
Quote from: golgotha on March 10, 2009, 03:39:58 PM
I'm not sure what the criteria is for having a character made in Redemption that occurs outside of the Bible. For example, could we see a Billy Graham card made?
I have it on very good authority that St Patty and the Salvation Army guy are exceptions and that nothing will go much beyond the time of Constantine. Also, I would argue that the Church dispensation is ongoing and that St. Patrick was an Apostle. An Apostle shows the characteristics of all five ministry gifts: Apostle + prophet/pastor/teacher/evangelist. He certainly did. Also, one can prophesy but not hold the five fold ministry office of a Prophet, so let's not get too crazy handing out titles.
So now we have St. Patrick as a prophet, priest, and an apostle? Nice.

I call 'em like I see 'em

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