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Ruling question
« on: February 24, 2018, 12:29:08 PM »
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EDIT: The individual abilities don't matter. I tried to simplify the situation, but it didn't help. Here's the question rephrased,

If I have a brown EC and an gold EC in battle and I play a gold battle winner to remove my opponent's hero, he then plays an enhancement that says "Interrupt the battle and play an enhancement." and plays a card to remove the gold character.

If I play a EE that says "Interrupt the battle and band to an evil character." and band to a gold character, does the gold battle winner reactivate?


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Re: Ruling question
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2018, 12:38:25 PM »
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If player 1 has Gomer banded to an orange 4/3 no sa evil character and played fearfulness to remove angle of might from battle, player 2 plays swift beings to fourth bowl of wrath on angel of might to remove the the orange character then if player 1 plays lurking to band in another orange evil character does fearfulness activate?
Special abilities in your post would get you a quicker answer
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Re: Ruling question
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2018, 12:52:55 PM »
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4th Bowl only banishes a human.
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Re: Ruling question
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2018, 12:55:49 PM »
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4th Bowl only banishes a human.

Bad example, the actual scenario is much more involved...
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Re: Ruling question
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2018, 12:58:37 PM »
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Okay, I re-did the original post to reflect the point in question. The actual situation was extremely complex and I wanted to simplify the situation, but ended over complicate it by using actual cards.

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Re: Ruling question
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2018, 01:10:49 PM »
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I believe it would reactivate, but its target could not be changed.
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Re: Ruling question
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2018, 01:15:53 PM »
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I believe it would reactivate, but its target could not be changed.

Why would it reactivate?
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Re: Ruling question
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2018, 02:40:37 PM »
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I believe it's the same principle as the example below.

I band two purple Heroes together.

When you block, I play Authority of Christ (unlimited) on the first purple Hero.

You use an interrupt/play next card to interrupt AoC and play something to discard the first purple Hero.

Authority of Christ now attempts to resolve and finding that there is still a purple Hero in battle, it does so.
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Re: Ruling question
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2018, 02:56:07 PM »
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The difference is that the gold battle winner is "discarded" because there is no gold brigade EC in battle before the "Interrupt the battle and band" EE is played. Does that change anything?

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Re: Ruling question
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2018, 03:28:15 PM »
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Good question in general. I also wonder when Doms can be played during battle when enhancements are "exchanged".
E.g. while an interrupt of an opponent's enhancement is active can I play a dominant (like AotL) to remove the underlying character? And if so will the effect of the enhancement still resolve?
Also can a character removing Dom (like AotL) be played whíle a blocker is presented and if so does the ability of that blocker still resolve?

Or shall a new thread be created for these questions? Or are they even already answered elsewhere?

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Re: Ruling question
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2018, 03:59:23 PM »
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The difference is that the gold battle winner is "discarded" because there is no gold brigade EC in battle before the "Interrupt the battle and band" EE is played. Does that change anything?

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The ItB suspends the ability that removed the gold character (and battle winner) from play, bringing them back. So I think Guardian is correct.

Good question in general. I also wonder when Doms can be played during battle when enhancements are "exchanged".
E.g. while an interrupt of an opponent's enhancement is active can I play a dominant (like AotL) to remove the underlying character? And if so will the effect of the enhancement still resolve?
Also can a character removing Dom (like AotL) be played whíle a blocker is presented and if so does the ability of that blocker still resolve?

Or shall a new thread be created for these questions? Or are they even already answered elsewhere?

Thank you!

No, N/A, and No.

They're answered in the definition of Dominant in the REG:
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A lamb or grim reaper illustration located in the icon box identifies a Dominant. All Dominants are unique. All abilities on Dominants cannot be negated. A Dominant can be played at any time on the active players turn regardless of initiative provided no effects are resolving.

An interrupt happening is an effect resolving, and there's no time between a character entering battle and it's special ability activating.
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Re: Ruling question
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2018, 04:23:38 PM »
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Thanx!  :thumbup:

 


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