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Re: Royal Musical? Parade
« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2008, 12:10:14 PM »
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No, because I do not see it all over the message boards.  I just went and looked at the T1 design board and didn't see any musician offenses on the entire first page.

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Re: Royal Musical? Parade
« Reply #26 on: September 25, 2008, 12:19:12 PM »
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Ruling questions is not "all over the message boards", it is one part of the message boards, and not under the section where people actually talk about the decks they are building.

In the ruling section, there are exactly three questions about music on the first page, and you asked two of them.

Lastly, people asking questions about music does not automatically make musicians the most powerful offense.  The most powerful offense will beat other powerful offenses in high-level tournaments.  That is the first, best measure of a strategy's performance.

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Re: Royal Musical? Parade
« Reply #27 on: September 25, 2008, 12:25:27 PM »
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I'm not mad, I am just saying that I don't see any of the things that you say are on these boards.

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Re: Royal Musical? Parade
« Reply #28 on: July 22, 2009, 12:32:11 AM »
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 :bump:

Any chance that we can get David added to the list of musicians and royal parade to the list of musical enhancements?
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Re: Royal Musical? Parade
« Reply #29 on: July 22, 2009, 12:42:14 AM »
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David wrote many of the Psalms, and the Psalms were used as music. This is what the Jews used for singing in the synagogues. Hence, David is clearly a musician. I'll add it (if it isn't there already).

I'm not sure about Royal parade being musical. Any solid evidence and proof?

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Re: Royal Musical? Parade
« Reply #30 on: July 22, 2009, 10:56:10 AM »
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Evidence for:

--The card art depicts a harp and tambourines
--The verse talks about the sound of trumpets (accompanied by dancing), and the previous verse (2 Samuel 6:13) talks about rejoicing
--The original parade (with Uzzah's infamous incident) had Israelites who "played before the LORD on all manner of instruments made of fir wood, even on harps, and on psalteries, and on timbrels, and on cornets, and on cymbals" (2 Samuel 6:5, KJV). It would make sense for this parade to have some of the same.

Evidence against:

--Trumpets aren't always musical (see Trumpet Blast)

I would argue that even though trumpets aren't always musical, there would seem to be no other reason why they would be present than for making music in this case, especially when there is dancing involved. For trumpet blast they were used as a type of alarm, or even a weapon from a certain perspective. I don't know why either of these 'non-musical' uses would apply to a parade.

I say yes. 
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Re: Royal Musical? Parade
« Reply #31 on: July 22, 2009, 10:58:23 AM »
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I agree, it seems musical enough to me.
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Re: Royal Musical? Parade
« Reply #32 on: July 22, 2009, 11:06:10 AM »
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Evidence for:

--The card art depicts a harp and tambourines
--The verse talks about the sound of trumpets (accompanied by dancing), and the previous verse (2 Samuel 6:13) talks about rejoicing
--The original parade (with Uzzah's infamous incident) had Israelites who "played before the LORD on all manner of instruments made of fir wood, even on harps, and on psalteries, and on timbrels, and on cornets, and on cymbals" (2 Samuel 6:5, KJV). It would make sense for this parade to have some of the same.

Evidence against:

--Trumpets aren't always musical (see Trumpet Blast)

I would argue that even though trumpets aren't always musical, there would seem to be no other reason why they would be present than for making music in this case, especially when there is dancing involved. For trumpet blast they were used as a type of alarm, or even a weapon from a certain perspective. I don't know why either of these 'non-musical' uses would apply to a parade.

I say yes.

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I was basically typing up the same thing but Prof A beat me to it.  Thank you. :)

Additionally, if David wasn't dancing to music, what exactly was he dancing to?
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Re: Royal Musical? Parade
« Reply #33 on: July 22, 2009, 12:05:11 PM »
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Evidence for:

--The card art depicts a harp and tambourines
--The verse talks about the sound of trumpets (accompanied by dancing), and the previous verse (2 Samuel 6:13) talks about rejoicing
--The original parade (with Uzzah's infamous incident) had Israelites who "played before the LORD on all manner of instruments made of fir wood, even on harps, and on psalteries, and on timbrels, and on cornets, and on cymbals" (2 Samuel 6:5, KJV). It would make sense for this parade to have some of the same.

Evidence against:

--Trumpets aren't always musical (see Trumpet Blast)

I would argue that even though trumpets aren't always musical, there would seem to be no other reason why they would be present than for making music in this case, especially when there is dancing involved. For trumpet blast they were used as a type of alarm, or even a weapon from a certain perspective. I don't know why either of these 'non-musical' uses would apply to a parade.

I say yes.

+1

I was basically typing up the same thing but Prof A beat me to it.  Thank you. :)

Additionally, if David wasn't dancing to music, what exactly was he dancing to?

The voices in his head humming obviously.

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Re: Royal Musical? Parade
« Reply #34 on: August 09, 2009, 09:43:30 AM »
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Bump. Still looking for a ruling.

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Re: Royal Musical? Parade
« Reply #35 on: June 14, 2010, 10:17:49 AM »
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Replying to this because it was brought to the attention of several Elders by a player:

I will restate my opinion that Royal Parade is musical for the reasons I gave (and can be seen in the post that Chronic Apathy quoted). Any other Elders care to comment?
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Re: Royal Musical? Parade
« Reply #36 on: June 14, 2010, 11:14:48 AM »
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I agree that it's musical.
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Re: Royal Musical? Parade
« Reply #37 on: June 14, 2010, 11:34:40 AM »
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why does you need it to be moosical anyvay

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Re: Royal Musical? Parade
« Reply #38 on: June 14, 2010, 12:04:01 PM »
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why does you need it to be moosical anyvay

So then the guy who recurs Musical enhancements can recur it, it can go into Musicians' Chambers for David to use, etc.
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Re: Royal Musical? Parade
« Reply #39 on: June 14, 2010, 12:28:36 PM »
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Yeah, this would really boost my musical offense, which causes me simultaneously to love and fear this idea.

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Re: Royal Musical? Parade
« Reply #40 on: June 14, 2010, 12:33:09 PM »
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Yeah, this would really boost my musical offense, which causes me simultaneously to love and fear this idea.

True. We probably shouldn't give musicians this kind of power. Everyone would be using them then.

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Re: Royal Musical? Parade
« Reply #41 on: June 14, 2010, 12:45:07 PM »
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True. We probably shouldn't give musicians this kind of power. Everyone would be using them then.
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Re: Royal Musical? Parade
« Reply #42 on: June 14, 2010, 01:14:27 PM »
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I agree with the other Elders that this card should be considered musical :)

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Re: Royal Musical? Parade
« Reply #43 on: June 14, 2010, 01:21:11 PM »
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As do I, and I'm not an elder.
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Re: Royal Musical? Parade
« Reply #44 on: June 14, 2010, 01:58:54 PM »
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Finally, something gets ruled in the favor of abuse. Yay.

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Re: Royal Musical? Parade
« Reply #45 on: June 14, 2010, 05:59:30 PM »
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I also agree.

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Re: Royal Musical? Parade
« Reply #46 on: June 14, 2010, 06:15:01 PM »
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so is it official?

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Re: Royal Musical? Parade
« Reply #47 on: June 14, 2010, 06:20:57 PM »
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There don't appear to be any strong objections to it.

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Re: Royal Musical? Parade
« Reply #48 on: June 16, 2010, 11:53:45 PM »
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Tonight Rob confirmed what the elders have already agreed on, Royal Parade is musical. :)
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Re: Royal Musical? Parade
« Reply #49 on: June 17, 2010, 12:01:09 AM »
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Tonight Rob confirmed what the elders have already agreed on, Royal Parade is musical. :)
And there was much rejoicing.

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