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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Official Rules & Errata => Ruling Questions => Topic started by: Gabe on March 17, 2013, 12:34:13 AM

Title: Revealing Saul/Paul
Post by: Gabe on March 17, 2013, 12:34:13 AM

My opponent makes a rescue I use Damsel with Spirit of Divination to block. He reveals his hand which contains Saul/Paul. Did he just reveal 8 good brigades or did he only reveal one evil brigade since Saul/Paul is an Evil Character at face value?

Damsel with Spirit of Divination - If blocking, reveal opponent's hand.  For each good brigade revealed, draw a card. Cannot be interrupted.

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Title: Re: Revealing Saul/Paul
Post by: Josh on March 17, 2013, 01:24:37 AM

Saul/Paul counts as an evil card for T2 deckbuilding purposes, and always defaults to Saul when played.  He's not like curses/covenants/DAEs which can be different things when in deck or hand based on the choice of players.  I'd say 1 evil brigade was revealed.  But INE.

Title: Re: Revealing Saul/Paul
Post by: The Guardian on March 17, 2013, 01:34:58 AM

I agree. At face/value, Saul/Paul is Saul. You cannot search for Saul/Paul with I am Creator.

I would say it's essentially an identifier.

Title: Re: Revealing Saul/Paul
Post by: Chris on March 17, 2013, 03:33:30 PM

I also agree.

Title: Re: Revealing Saul/Paul
Post by: RTSmaniac on March 17, 2013, 09:51:52 PM

agree

Title: Re: Revealing Saul/Paul
Post by: Gabe on March 18, 2013, 02:28:12 AM

For the record, I agree as well but needed to be sure.

Title: Re: Revealing Saul/Paul
Post by: Master KChief on March 18, 2013, 02:36:06 AM

So if Damsel reveals a DAE in hand, does the good brigade count or no?

Title: Re: Revealing Saul/Paul
Post by: jbeers285 on March 18, 2013, 02:50:13 AM

DAE's can be targeted in deck and discard pile as both good and evil enhancements so when revealed I would say the person in control of the card that caused the reveal ability would be able to target it as either including the x on damsel.

Title: Re: Revealing Saul/Paul
Post by: Drrek on March 18, 2013, 04:30:13 AM

Quote from: Master KChief on March 18, 2013, 02:36:06 AM

So if Damsel reveals a DAE in hand, does the good brigade count or no?

Yes, because DAE cards are both good and evil until played.  Saul/Paul is a very special case because he always starts out as an evil character.