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REG Update? - Idol
« on: August 27, 2008, 11:51:45 AM »
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hey,

Jacob Buries the Foreign gods refers to Idols. I believe this should be distinct from "Artifacts depicting an Idol" and should have its own entry in the REG.

I believe "Idols" should include:
- Golden Calf
- Household Idols
- Image of Jealosy (identified as an Idol in the NIV)

I also considered Asherah Pole. Any insight as to whether or not it is an Idol?

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Re: REG Update? - Idol
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2008, 02:34:35 PM »
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Asherah Pole is an Idol, yes.

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Re: REG Update? - Idol
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2008, 09:54:10 PM »
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Almost as good as Nabal ignoring himself.

If I'm the one ignoring myself, I must be ignoring the one who is ignoring. Therefore, I am doing the opposite, which is to not ignore anyone. But, then I'm not the one who is ignoring myself ...

That's it! I'm officially ignoring the previous sentences in this post (everyone else is, anyways)!


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Re: REG Update? - Idol
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2008, 10:04:20 PM »
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I'll ignore Gil's last post.

Why must "artifact depicting an idol" be distinct from "idol"? I figured it was shorthand for the same.
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Re: REG Update? - Idol
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2008, 10:04:53 PM »
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Hey,

Almost as good as Nabal ignoring himself.

But no where near as good as Nabal using Death of Unrighteous while he's ignoring himself and not dieing because of it.

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Re: REG Update? - Idol
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2008, 10:08:47 PM »
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Hey,

Why must "artifact depicting an idol" be distinct from "idol"? I figured it was shorthand for the same.

So you're saying that list of cards in the REG under "depicting a weapon" is the same as the list of "weapons"? 

Captured Ark depicts an idol.  Captured Ark is not an idol.

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Re: REG Update? - Idol
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2008, 10:16:34 PM »
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"Weapon" is shorthand for "weapon-class enhancement". "Warrior" is shorthand for "warrior-class character". I figured "idol" was shorthand for "artifact depicting an idol" because there was a previous categorization there that fit.
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Re: REG Update? - Idol
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2008, 10:27:21 PM »
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it has an an idol in the pic so there for it depicts an idol
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Re: REG Update? - Idol
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2008, 03:40:10 AM »
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But an unknown nation isn't an idol in an of itself.
Not quite a ghost...but not quite not.

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Re: REG Update? - Idol
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2008, 04:32:32 PM »
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But an unknown nation isn't an idol in an of itself.

unknown nation is not an idol  at all
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Re: REG Update? - Idol
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2008, 06:37:23 AM »
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But an unknown nation isn't an idol in an of itself.

unknown nation is not an idol  at all
Au contraire

Quote from: REG -> Definitions -> "Depicting an Idol"
Several Redemption® cards contain special abilities that refer to cards that “depict an idol.” The following cards refer to cards that depict an idol:

•      Demon behind the Idol, Pagan Priest, Unbowed, Worshipping Demons, and Worshipper of False Gods

This includes the following cards:

•      Altar of Dagon, Asherah Pole, Captured Ark, Golden Calf, Household Idols, Jacob Buries the Foreign gods, Jeroboam's Idolatry, and Unknown Nation

Unknown nation depicts an idol, but it is not an idol. On the other hand, Asherah pole both depicts an idol and *is* an idol.

Question though, don't Molech Worship, Weeping for Tamuuz, The gods of Egypt, Baal Worship, and many others also depict idols?

And on a related rabbit trail, don't Molech Worship, Baal Worship, Worship of Milcom and others also depict evil altars?
« Last Edit: September 17, 2008, 10:35:07 AM by Archangel withabunchofnumbersontheend »

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Re: REG Update? - Idol
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2008, 07:04:11 AM »
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Currently, the only cards that mention something "depicting an idol or evil altar" specify that they must be artifacts. That said, it seems strange for Jacob Buries the Foreign gods to be on the list but not, say, Manasseh's Altar or the cards you mention. I'd think it should be one way or the other.
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