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If you place this card on a herod can he use any color of territory enhancements/use high places when in territory?


Herods Trechery: Place on a herod. This character may use evil enhancements of any brigade. (Territory Class)

The use of additional colors is a gained ability, so I would say that only works in battle.  If the Herod gained all colors instead, that would be different (/me watches everyone go scrambling for Training in Righteousness).

Erm... Why would Training in Righteousness help High Places? Good Brigades cant play evil place enhancements. 

What about Ashdod and TC/High Places?

The use of additional colors is a gained ability, so I would say that only works in battle.  If the Herod gained all colors instead, that would be different (/me watches everyone go scrambling for Training in Righteousness).

I disagree, all the other TC enhancements full abilities work outside of battles (for example Asa's Good Reign doesn't have to be in battle to grant immunity). Herod's treachery doesn't says "That herod gains the ability to use Evil enhancements of any brigade" so why should it be treated differently?

I agree, HeTrech should let you use Weapons and TC Enhancements in territory because Ashdod does.

just as shobach and weapons

Here is a question.  Does Drawn Out work outside of battle?  It seems to be worded the same way as HeTrech...  If you can CM a hero with Drawn Out in territory before entering battle, then IMHO, you can use HeTrech too.

Drawn Out

Type: Hero Enh. • Brigade: Purple • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Take an O.T. male human Hero from deck, discard pile, or hand and put it in territory. Place this card on that Hero. Protect that Hero from evil discard abilities. • Identifiers: None • Verse: Exodus 2:5 • Availability: Rock of Ages (Set 15)


Herod’s Treachery

Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Multicolor • Ability: None • Class: Territory • Special Ability: Place on a Herod. That Herod may use evil Enhancements regardless of brigade. You may discard this card to force X Heroes to withdraw from battle. • Attributes: X = number of good brigades opponent has in play • Identifiers: None • Verse: Matthew 2:8 • Availability: Thesaurus ex Preteritus booster packs ()

Hey,

Abilities that follow place abilities are active while the card is placed.  During the prep phase Herod's Trechery is still paced, so it's ability is active.  So the answer to the original question is yes.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

So, can you place HTrech on X hero, not rescue with X hero, and use High Places with his new brigades the next turn?

HTreach gets placed on a HeroD not a hero, but other than that, yes.

For reasons and examples given, I would think HTrech works outside of battle.