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I was looking up the conversion rules for another reason, and found that nowhere in the REG definitions or clarifications, or in the glossary under various terms, does it specifically say demons cannot be converted. I know this is a game rule, but could a clarification be added in the REG for newer players?

That rule hasn't been officially anounced yet. (to my knowledge) If it has, please point it out to me.

Do captured demons count as lost souls? Can I taunt with a captured demon in my LoB and no other souls in play? Do captured demons go somewhere else when captured?

So what happens to captured Demons? Are they just chilling?

That would be ironic wouldn't it, for Demons to be "chilling"?  More seriously, I think that they would basically just chill, but I just wanted to get the word out on the overall ruling, I'll let other Elders handle announcing the details

whats a list soul

guess I'll have to change my quote at the bottom of my post. and lord i hope im not starting anything by saying this but...shouldn't we hope that all creatures could find salvation no matter what form they come in?

doesnt mean we cant hope

That demons cannot be redeemed would be an interesting ruling. It makes sense theologically, but not in game play.

So.....

If demons can't be redeemed because of theological reasons, even though it violates a game play option, can we revisit the ruling on SoG/NJ and the */4 and NT LSs, which was made for game play reasons even though the majority (it seemed) objected on theological grounds?

I'm not usually a rabble-rouser when it comes to rules, but come on, let's keep it consistent. Either play the cards as they are even if it makes for iffy theology, or play them theologically even though it requires exceptions to the game rules. But do it the same way for all rulings.

Either play the cards as they are even if it makes for iffy theology, or play them theologically even though it requires exceptions to the game rules. But do it the same way for all rulings.

The SoG vs. */4 and NT LSs is not an issue of a gameplay option.  Unfortunately it is an issue of the definition of protection.  We can't allow SoG to rescue a LS that is protected from it, unless we break the definition of protection.

However, rest assured that I brought this issue up on the other side of the board a while back and we have discussed some options that hopefully will come to fruition

Quote from: DDiceRC on October 08, 2010, 06:49:36 PM

Either play the cards as they are even if it makes for iffy theology, or play them theologically even though it requires exceptions to the game rules. But do it the same way for all rulings.

The SoG vs. */4 and NT LSs is not an issue of a gameplay option.  Unfortunately it is an issue of the definition of protection.  We can't allow SoG to rescue a LS that is protected from it, unless we break the definition of protection.

However, rest assured that I brought this issue up on the other side of the board a while back and we have discussed some options that hopefully will come to fruition

Make a new Son of God that says "Regardless of protection" as a promo or something.

so its official, demons can be converted?

Did you mean to ask a different question?  Demons still can NOT be converted.

source?

Demons haven't been able to be converted for a long time.  If you think that's changed, the onus is on you to provide a source.

Bryon says it is an official rule here.

The only card that could previously convert a demon was updated to reflect the ruling.  [Sanctifying Faith]

Two elders have thus agreed, and there hasn't been a post by an Elder that disagrees.

Although the REG doesn't state the rule, the fact everyone agrees about its existence is probably as good as a REG entry. (And considering most of the members write any REG quotes off due to those three errors, this should be more convincing, anyways.)